Zorn and Skins to pursue D. J. Hackett

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Monkeydad
03-04-2008, 02:03 PM
The player rep for D.J. Hackett, whose client has not made any free agent visits, expects the Titans and Redskins to pursue Hackett this week.

"(The Titans) told us Friday they would be in touch with us this week," the agent said. "We were told the same thing by the Redskins, that they would be in touch with us. We are obviously not panicking by any stretch."


Source: Titans agree with Crumpler on 2-year deal | www.tennessean.com | The Tennessean (http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080303/SPORTS01/803030344/1027)




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I'd love to see him come in as our #3. He has big play potential and obviously plays well for Zorn already.

Discuss.

DGreene28
03-04-2008, 02:04 PM
Don't overpay for him!

Joe Ribbs BBQ
03-04-2008, 02:07 PM
I would like to see Hackett before Bryant Johnson, just my .02

MonkFan4Life
03-04-2008, 02:07 PM
And what would be considered overpayment ? I'm not attacking you or anything but just asking. What would you, or anyone consider overpayment ?

GMScud
03-04-2008, 02:13 PM
I'm torn between Hackett and Bryant Johnson. When Boldin was hurt last season, Johnson stepped in and played great. He's 6-3 215, only 26, and a 1st round talent. Plus he's only missed 3 games total in his 5 year career.

Hackett is slightly smaller at 6-2 208. He and Johnson are the same age, although Johnson has far more experience.

Despite only being 4 months apart in age, Johnson has played in 77 games, has 210 catches for almost 2700 yards and 9tds, while Hackett has only played in only 27 games. Although despite playing in 50 less games, he has as many TDs as Johnson, and his yards and catches per game numbers are better, plus he knows Zorn's stuff.

This is a tough call. I think Bryant Johnson is the more durable, more talented player who has been buried behind two pro-bowlers in Arizona. Hackett is probably the safer play though.

MTK
03-04-2008, 02:15 PM
The player rep for D.J. Hackett, whose client has not made any free agent visits, expects the Titans and Redskins to pursue Hackett this week.

"(The Titans) told us Friday they would be in touch with us this week," the agent said. "We were told the same thing by the Redskins, that they would be in touch with us. We are obviously not panicking by any stretch."


Source: Titans agree with Crumpler on 2-year deal | www.tennessean.com | The Tennessean (http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080303/SPORTS01/803030344/1027)




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I'd love to see him come in as our #3. He has big play potential and obviously plays well for Zorn already.

Discuss.

He would come in higher than our #3. He would likely start along with Moss and ARE would move to the slot.

steveo395
03-04-2008, 02:17 PM
And what would be considered overpayment ? I'm not attacking you or anything but just asking. What would you, or anyone consider overpayment ?
Anything more than Lloyd or Randle El got ($10 million guaranteed). Even that might be a little high.

MTK
03-04-2008, 02:19 PM
I'm torn between Hackett and Bryant Johnson. When Boldin was hurt last season, Johnson stepped in and played great. He's 6-3 215, only 26, and a 1st round talent. Plus he's only missed 3 games total in his 5 year career.

Hackett is slightly smaller at 6-2 208. He and Johnson are the same age, although Johnson has far more experience.

Despite only being 4 months apart in age, Johnson has played in 77 games, has 210 catches for almost 2700 yards and 9tds, while Hackett has only played in only 27 games. Although despite playing in 50 less games, he has as many TDs as Johnson, and his yards and catches per game numbers are better, plus he knows Zorn's stuff.

This is a tough call. I think Bryant Johnson is the more durable, more talented player who has been buried behind two pro-bowlers in Arizona. Hackett is probably the safer play though.

I see people saying that but looking at what he actually did I'm not very impressed. Here is what he did when he started (http://sportsline.com/nfl/players/player/gamelogs/2007/396163):

Pit: 4-40
Stl: 6-80
Car: 4-29
Cle: 6-56-1
Sea: 1-5-1
No: 2-35
Atl: 3-46

Pretty ho-hum numbers to me.

Schneed10
03-04-2008, 02:19 PM
I'd give Hackett (or Bryant Johnson for that matter, but I'd prefer Hackett) about $12 million guaranteed, $35 million total over 6 years.

This would be nearly identical to what we gave Randle-El, just with some inflation built in.

It's about the going rate these days for a #2 type guy.

Schneed10
03-04-2008, 02:22 PM
I see people saying that but looking at what he actually did I'm not very impressed. Here is what he did when he started (http://sportsline.com/nfl/players/player/gamelogs/2007/396163):

Pit: 4-40
Stl: 6-80
Car: 4-29
Cle: 6-56-1
Sea: 1-5-1
No: 2-35
Atl: 3-46

Pretty ho-hum numbers to me.

Keep in mind he was the #2 WR during all of those games, because either Boldin or Fitz was always healthy and occupying the #1 position. Those are decent #2 WR numbers.

If anybody thinks they're getting a stud #1 WR with either Hackett (big games, but inconsistent) or Johnson (no big games, but consistent) then they're wrong. So you won't see better than #2 WR numbers from either of these guys.

Likewise, they would get paid like #2s: $12 million guaranteed, 6 years, $35 million total

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