Schneed10
02-29-2008, 11:59 AM
Really?? I think that was way too much. I don't think older back-ups like Brad Johnson, Trent Diler, Gus, Kerry Collins or Charlie Batch made or make that much. I'm glad he's back but for 3mil a year?? I'm not sure JC is making much more than that.
The $3 million per season figure means nothing. The contract could be incredibly backloaded for the 3rd season, at which time he'll be 40 and probably won't be a Redskin anymore.
What matters is how much in the way of guaranteed money we paid him. If we gave him $5 million guaranteed (I highly doubt it) then I can understand the complaint.
But as with any NFL contract, coming up with a per-season value is meaningless. The guaranteed portion is what really matters.
The $3 million per season figure means nothing. The contract could be incredibly backloaded for the 3rd season, at which time he'll be 40 and probably won't be a Redskin anymore.
What matters is how much in the way of guaranteed money we paid him. If we gave him $5 million guaranteed (I highly doubt it) then I can understand the complaint.
But as with any NFL contract, coming up with a per-season value is meaningless. The guaranteed portion is what really matters.
Sounds like he got a signing bonus of $3M
onlydarksets
02-29-2008, 12:00 PM
SBs are guaranteed, so it's at least $3 million.
FRPLG
02-29-2008, 12:03 PM
Anyhow...does anyone else find it kind of interesting that Zorn and Snyder flew out to Massachusetts to bring Collins back, while Cerrato stayed back in DC? What's that all about? Maybe it's like the State of the Union addresses where one Cabinet member is always absent in case of some mass tragedy on site.
Not really. I mean what does VC have to offer the conversation? TC knows they want to resign him and he knows the Jags would like him so he is going to base his decision on comfort and opportunity mostly. That stuff is dependent on the coaching staff so to me Zorn is the only guy to deliver the message. Plus he's a former QB so that helps. Snyder just tags along cause all this stuff gets him going. He loves this stuff.
I'd ne more worried if Snyderatto went and left Zorn behind. Either way Snyder is going no matter what. He's gotta get his First Day of FA fix baby. If he aint on a jet at 12:01 then he is probably bouncing off the walls. At least time it was to make a reasoned move.
Schneed10
02-29-2008, 12:05 PM
Sounds like he got a signing bonus of $3M
Thanks I didn't see that. So his cap hit this year is probably $1.85 million (assuming he's getting the vet min base salary this year and they backloaded the base salaries in the last two years).
That's by no means a killer for a backup QB.
FRPLG
02-29-2008, 12:06 PM
SBs are guaranteed, so it's at least $3 million.
3 Guarnateed plus we'd have to assume he is guaranteed to play this year and probably at a vet min sal level so he'll probably be a cap figures of
yr1-1.85mil
yr2-2.5mil
yr3=4.65mil
or something close to that.
It is almost a guarantee he is here for at least 2 years.
onlydarksets
02-29-2008, 12:06 PM
Either way Snyder is going no matter what. He's gotta get his First Day of FA fix baby. If he aint on a jet at 12:01 then he is probably bouncing off the walls.
LOL - there's definitely truth in that!
Thanks I didn't see that. So his cap hit this year is probably $1.85 million (assuming he's getting the vet min base salary this year and they backloaded the base salaries in the last two years).
That's by no means a killer for a backup QB.
Sounding more and more like a steal for us if you ask me.
TheMalcolmConnection
02-29-2008, 12:12 PM
My only concern with him is learning a brand new system...
But then again, touch is touch and he showed plenty of that late in the season last year...
Schneed10
02-29-2008, 12:17 PM
My only concern with him is learning a brand new system...
But then again, touch is touch and he showed plenty of that late in the season last year...
Yeah I share that concern. He was great at releasing the ball before WRs made their break. The only way you can confidently do that is if you know where the WR is going to be.
It's going to take time for him to learn that in this new system.
That said, Campbell is the much bigger concern when it comes to picking up the new system. And just about any backup QB out there would have needed to learn Zorn's system. So that shouldn't really play into the decision to resign Collins too much. As soon as we hired Zorn, we knew we were in for a learning year, no matter who we had on the roster.