-- Zorn to Talk to Lloyd Before Cutting Him --

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Schneed10
02-26-2008, 12:40 PM
Zorn: Hey, What do you think about sticking around and maybe being more involved?
Lloyd: Here I thought I was going to be disolved, Now I find I'm resolved to be involved,
It's amazing how simple this was solved.
Zorn: What the hell was that?
Lloyd: Yo thats my rap. Word.
Zorn: What kinda answer is that? Look....are you in or are you out?
Lloyd: I could be within or I could be without, It doesn't really matter cuz I was making
out, You can keep me in or you can kick me out, It's all the same cuz I'm making
out.
Zorn: Oh...kay. I'll pencil you in. How about restructuring your contract?
Lloyd: Restructuring...it's so frustrating. To not be on the field when I wanna be.
A contract is something you have to live up to, If I'm given the chance then
I'm about to. I hope you know I make the money no matter what I do.
Zorn: Yeah. whatever. I hope your trying to keep your day job.

LOL! Hilarious!

Schneed10
02-26-2008, 12:44 PM
Cutting him today prevents us from having to give him any more money for this season and beyond.

We cut him right now, we eat the hit now, and he's off the books by 2009. We wait a year, and he stays on the books for 2009, and we paid him in full for this year.

Yes, the net cap hit is lessened every year we keep him on, but every year we keep him on he gets to see more and more of his contract value.

Yeah, and on the bolded part, everyone think about your workplace. Imagine there's a guy in your office with a bad attitude, doesn't work hard, sucks to be around, and doesn't do his job well. And he gets paid a ton more than you.

How do you feel about him? How do you feel about your employer for keeping him around?

Keeping a highly paid player who underachieves essentially sends the message to the team that you're validating him. It sends the message that the team has no sense of justice or fairness. Players don't want to hear that his cap charge is prohibitive to cutting him, they just can't stand that he's getting paid that much to suck that bad.

Getting rid of him helps to eliminate a source of bad team morale from the locker room. He's had enough chances, he deserves to be cut, and the Redskins will be better off in both the near term and the long term if they do it now.

Longtimefan
02-26-2008, 12:47 PM
Lloyd's situation is one that makes me have disdain for the way players are compensated in today's NFL.

Zorn is DTRT however by talking to him, what conclusion he arives at as a result of their conversation remains to be seen. I'm hoping it's pointing to the EXIT sign.

hesscl34
02-26-2008, 01:14 PM
thats disgusting:) and i say give him a chance. i hate carrying money against the cap for players not on the roster.

I second that, give the guy a chance!

Redskins247
02-26-2008, 01:17 PM
Zorn: Hey, What do you think about sticking around and maybe being more involved?
Lloyd: Here I thought I was going to be disolved, Now I find I'm resolved to be involved,
It's amazing how simple this was solved.
Zorn: What the hell was that?
Lloyd: Yo thats my rap. Word.
Zorn: What kinda answer is that? Look....are you in or are you out?
Lloyd: I could be within or I could be without, It doesn't really matter cuz I was making
out, You can keep me in or you can kick me out, It's all the same cuz I'm making
out.
Zorn: Oh...kay. I'll pencil you in. How about restructuring your contract?
Lloyd: Restructuring...it's so frustrating. To not be on the field when I wanna be.
A contract is something you have to live up to, If I'm given the chance then
I'm about to. I hope you know I make the money no matter what I do.
Zorn: Yeah. whatever. I hope your trying to keep your day job.

That's awesome!

Ruhskins
02-26-2008, 01:36 PM
I say either give him a chance or trade him...I'm sure someone will bite (Matt Millen anyone?). Heck, last year there were some people ridiculing the idea of Moss going to another team. I say let's see if the change in staff can change him or let's get something in return...a draft pick that we can use to get someone or use it in a trade.

Slingin Sammy 33
02-26-2008, 01:39 PM
Lloyd's situation is one that makes me have disdain for the way players are compensated in today's NFL.
Imagine if this was a MLB or NBA contract and ALL guaranteed. That would really suck for us.

freddyg12
02-26-2008, 02:07 PM
I know it is a scenario that won't come to pass, but just remember that both Chris Cooley and Derrick Dockery were both 3rd round picks ...

A 3rd round pick is typically high value, you definitely expect a guy to start eventually if you nab him in the 3rd.

I don't know just how much Huff is really worth, but for anybody to take Loyd you'd have to sweeten the deal somehow. I know this deal will never go down, but honestly think it's not bad even if we gave up a 3rd.

SBXVII
02-26-2008, 02:46 PM
Ok, here's my proposal....due to the fact he comes from a WC offense and SUPPOSEDLY thrived in it.....Lets send him to the Eagles and throw in Cartwright to sweeten the deal for one of their UFA'S?

celts32
02-26-2008, 02:48 PM
The only reason to talk to him is to give him a few choice words before cutting his arse.

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