In The News: McCain, Hillary, Obama Oh My!

so Clinton and Obama are the only candidates that will owe " favors" once they enter the white house? then why are 6 of John McCain's main campaign advisers former lobbyists? but i definitely here what you are saying about the United States being the best country in the world, hands down

What politician isn't beholden to special interests? My opinion of those are based on what those special interests are.
Clinton and Obama will say anything to get people to vote for them. And that "anything" is usually in the form of some kind of entitlement that will be paid for by us taxpayers. Both of them say that they will pull our troops out of Iraq before that country is able to stand on it's two feet. And while that may get some rave reviews by some people who do not care about what our troops sacrificed for. That to me is moronic. I love peace like the next guy, but this war on terror is one we did not start. I know it's cliche' to say but, for those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. Except for ending slavery, fascism, nazism and communism war has never solved anything.

the funny thing is, at least to me, if you went strictly on qualifications, it would probably be Clinton

I certainly don't agree but I'd love to hear your argument. I am not particularly impressed with any of them.

What politician isn't beholden to special interests? My opinion of those are based on what those special interests are.
Clinton and Obama will say anything to get people to vote for them. And that "anything" is usually in the form of some kind of entitlement that will be paid for by us taxpayers. Both of them say that they will pull our troops out of Iraq before that country is able to stand on it's two feet. And while that may get some rave reviews by some people who do not care about what our troops sacrificed for. That to me is moronic. I love peace like the next guy, but this war on terror is one we did not start. I know it's cliche' to say but, for those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. Except for ending slavery, fascism, nazism and communism war has never solved anything.


I agree with a war on terror, but that isn't the war that's being fought in Iraq. I have several family members in Iraq as we speak. I also have several friends there, and all of them I've spoken to feel the same way about the war we're fighting. It's senseless.

I actually do believe that violence can be a resolution, but a last resort. I wish it weren't so, but as you said it can be. George Bush addressing the UN telling them "you're either with us or with the terrorists" made my stomach churn. It wasn't true and frankly we've had a moron running this country for eight years, who took over for another moron. It really speaks to the state of the citizenship that we elected this guy twice. It shouldn't have been close enough to steal.

Partisan politics were based on the theory that through argument you should get the best ideas implemented. Its time to get a new point of view in the white house. I think the smartest guy, and the most honorable guy is obama. I didn't really want it to be, because I wanted a Republican to be that guy. They really need a face lift, though.

Our country is great, but we are undeniably moving in the wrong direction. If we continue on this path we will not be a great country very long. Our military is spread too thin. It started when Clinton cut so many military jobs and they started outsourcing so much of their construction and maintenance operations to contractors. That, coupled with the war in Iraq that still wages with no plan, has weakened our military and cost us trillions of dollars, and thousands of lives.

Our economy has had band-aid solutions put on for so long they're bled through. This country was the most profitable when we were more self reliant. During the industrial age, we manufactured our goods here, at home. The middle class flourished and more and more people were able to live above the poverty line in our country. Appeasing large corporations to cut costs has cost America deeply. Tax breaks for businesses outsourcing jobs? Who the hell does that help? Eventually there will be no one left to use any of the products these companies offer, and they will die off too. We need someone with the balls to stand up and put a stop to the destruction of the middle class in the US. To ensure that the people who are fortunate enough to have jobs in this country, don't send their wages to be spent in countries with floundering economies. We need a candidate who is truly inspired to make a difference, and not just sit up and blow smoke up our asses, and play all of the political BS games that these guys play.

To me, obama is the only candidate I've seen in years that gives me hope that a guy may just be sincere. He may be smart enough and determined enough to actually change this country for the better. FDR type of change. He may not, but he's the only one I see with even that type potential.

good post canthetuna. your economic points are dead on. the same with the oil companies getting those same tax breaks for research and development. what a joke. these guys are setting records every quarter for profit. if Mr. Bush has accomplished anything, the middle class is coming closer and closer to becoming extinct

You're right. And the bad thing is, that right now we have alaska, which should have been drilled. Osha and the EPA have gone berserk in maintaining environmental balances around pipelines and oil rigs. I lived in TX most of my life and there were oil pumps everywhere. We had a hunting camp full of them. There were no large environmental impacts.

Alaska is somewhere around 44% (if memory serves me) the size of the contintental US, and according to the 2005 census, has only 100k more pepole than the CITY of Washington DC. (with dc being around 550k and the state of alaska having around 650k)

I'd drill the piss out of it and say, when we use that up we're done.

I'd allow for more oil drilling in alaska for the time being (which would create jobs and keep more of our dollars domestic) and then focus more of our resources on developing a plan for alternative fuels, mainly making a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle more cost effective.

You're right. And the bad thing is, that right now we have alaska, which should have been drilled. Osha and the EPA have gone berserk in maintaining environmental balances around pipelines and oil rigs. I lived in TX most of my life and there were oil pumps everywhere. We had a hunting camp full of them. There were no large environmental impacts.

Alaska is somewhere around 44% (if memory serves me) the size of the contintental US, and according to the 2005 census, has only 100k more pepole than the CITY of Washington DC. (with dc being around 550k and the state of alaska having around 650k)

I'd drill the piss out of it and say, when we use that up we're done.

I'd allow for more oil drilling in alaska for the time being (which would create jobs and keep more of our dollars domestic) and then focus more of our resources on developing a plan for alternative fuels, mainly making a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle more cost effective.

Oh, now you know better than that. The treehuggers would never allow that to happen. ;)

Our economy has had band-aid solutions put on for so long they're bled through. This country was the most profitable when we were more self reliant. During the industrial age, we manufactured our goods here, at home. The middle class flourished and more and more people were able to live above the poverty line in our country. Appeasing large corporations to cut costs has cost America deeply. Tax breaks for businesses outsourcing jobs? Who the hell does that help? Eventually there will be no one left to use any of the products these companies offer, and they will die off too. We need someone with the balls to stand up and put a stop to the destruction of the middle class in the US. To ensure that the people who are fortunate enough to have jobs in this country, don't send their wages to be spent in countries with floundering economies. We need a candidate who is truly inspired to make a difference, and not just sit up and blow smoke up our asses, and play all of the political BS games that these guys play.

The "middle class" was NOT prospering at the dawn of the industrial age, at its apex, or during its early decline. You think our health care situation is bad now? They didn't know what health care was and died during their 40s. They couldn't eat anywhere near as well as we do today. Poor workers were treated FAR worse than any worker in today's America.

Also, corporate tax cuts aren't a bad thing. Those corporations employ the middle class. Guess what corporate directors and officers do when faced with tax hikes? They order cut jobs to increase profitability and heap additional demands on those workers they decide to keep. Go ahead, tax the hell out of corporations and see what happens to middle class.

The notion that we would prosper if we erected mile high walls around our borders and become "self reliant" is not grounded in any real sense of reality. A large reason why food is so damn cheap, we can get all sorts of fruits during winter months, and various other goods and services are so cheap is because we have reached out to other countries.

I know people like Lou Dobbs are gaining popularity by saying things like, "this war on the middle class," "evil corporations are killing the average worker," and we are "exporting America." Those simple slogans are nice, capitalize on people's emotions, and get nice ratings, but they lack any real substance.

Every time I think of Lou Doubs I think Lewis Prothero:

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The "middle class" was NOT prospering at the dawn of the industrial age, at its apex, or during its early decline. You think our health care situation is bad now? They didn't know what health care was and died during their 40s. They couldn't eat anywhere near as well as we do today. Poor workers were treated FAR worse than any worker in today's America.

Also, corporate tax cuts aren't a bad thing. Those corporations employ the middle class. Guess what corporate directors and officers do when faced with tax hikes? They order cut jobs to increase profitability and heap additional demands on those workers they decide to keep. Go ahead, tax the hell out of corporations and see what happens to middle class.

The notion that we would prosper if we erected mile high walls around our borders and become "self reliant" is not grounded in any real sense of reality. A large reason why food is so damn cheap, we can get all sorts of fruits during winter months, and various other goods and services are so cheap is because we have reached out to other countries.

I know people like Lou Dobbs are gaining popularity by saying things like, "this war on the middle class," "evil corporations are killing the average worker," and we are "exporting America." Those simple slogans are nice, capitalize on people's emotions, and get nice ratings, but they lack any real substance.

I dont know dick about lou dobbs, but I do know several people who've had to change careers over the last 10 years because their industry wages were being driven down due to outsourcing and illegal (and sometimes legal) immigrant workers.

What's your stance here? Are you just disagreeing with what I'm saying or do you have ideas you'd like to enlighten us to?