How about Bryant Johnson?

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Redskins8588
02-20-2008, 07:24 PM
But that's sort of my point. I mean I know Fitz was like a top 3 pick, but Boldin was a late 2nd (early 3rd?) round pick. And I'm not putting Boldin down by any means. I think he's awesome. All I'm saying is Johnson was pretty highly regarded coming out of college and drafted accordingly so is the reason he's #3 because he's behind Fitz and Boldin, or is it because he's underachieved and doesn't have the consistency to be any better?

I see what you are trying to say, every story has 2 sides which side is Johnsons? Here are his stats for games that he had to start for either Boldin or Fitzgerald.

FILLING IN FOR BOLDIN:
WK4 vs. PITT 4rec. 40yds. 0TD's
WK5 @ STL 6rec. 80yds. 0TD's
WK6 vs. CAR 4rec. 29yds. 0TD's
WK14 @ SEA 1rec. 5yds. 1TD

FILLING IN FOR FITZGERALD:
WK13 vs. CLE 6rec. 56yds. 1TD

And you can look up on NFL.COM for the rest of last season stats for Johnson , but the question remains...

Is he a good WR stuck behind 2 pro-bowlers, or is he nothing more than an average 3rd WR?

MTK
02-20-2008, 07:28 PM
I still like Hackett more.

Redskins8588
02-20-2008, 07:29 PM
I was thinking the same thing about Johnson. I would have Roy Williams or Javon Walker because both have proven that they can be a number 1. On top of that D.J. Hackett would be probably the best signing since he knows Zorn's offense and he is a big receiver and will not cost us any draft picks.

If there is any chance in hell that we could get Roy Williams by all means we should...

Dirtbag59
02-20-2008, 07:34 PM
If there is any chance in hell that we could get Roy Williams by all means we should...

Apparently the asking price is a 2nd round pick, but given that the trade would help Detroit get salary cap space as well as compenstation for a guy they won't resign then I'd say that its possible to get him for a third round pick. Either way second or third is a small price to pay for a proven #1 WR. Especially considering that we would concievably use one of those picks on a rookie that history tells us probably won't pan out.

djnemo65
02-20-2008, 07:35 PM
But that's sort of my point. I mean I know Fitz was like a top 3 pick, but Boldin was a late 2nd (early 3rd?) round pick. And I'm not putting Boldin down by any means. I think he's awesome. All I'm saying is Johnson was pretty highly regarded coming out of college and drafted accordingly so is the reason he's #3 because he's behind Fitz and Boldin, or is it because he's underachieved and doesn't have the consistency to be any better?

I think it's less an indictment of his skills as much as it is a testament to how deep Arizona's WR core really is. It's fair to say that BJ hasn't achieved a level of success consistent with being a top 20 pick, but that doesn't matter at this point because he isn't going to command a contract commensurate with his draft position anyway. The fact is Arizona has perhaps the best starting tandem in the league and Johnson isn't good enough to start there. Boldin was a second round pick but he was also rookie of the year so there's no shame in being behind him on the depth chart. Still, Johnson is a big solid hard-worker with the potential to excel as a compliment to our smaller shiftier guys.

Redskins8588
02-20-2008, 07:48 PM
Apparently the asking price is a 2nd round pick, but given that the trade would help Detroit get salary cap space as well as compenstation for a guy they won't resign then I'd say that its possible to get him for a third round pick. Either way second or third is a small price to pay for a proven #1 WR. Especially considering that we would concievably use one of those picks on a rookie that history tells us probably won't pan out.

IMO, I would be all over that with our 2nd round pick. I know that just about everyone on here would be up in arms, but who would we get in the 2nd round that could produce like Williams? If you put Williams in an offense that had a good QB, not an average one like Kitna, he would be a monster in the NFL...

htownskinfan
02-20-2008, 08:08 PM
What about Andre Davis of the texans? the guy was money for the texans and caught everything thrown his way,especially looked good on the deep ball,plus he's a great return man also,I think he's 6'1" or 6'2" 195 .He was in a contract year and the texans cant afford to pay him more than 3rd wr money

SC Skins Fan
02-20-2008, 08:09 PM
IMO, I would be all over that with our 2nd round pick. I know that just about everyone on here would be up in arms, but who would we get in the 2nd round that could produce like Williams? If you put Williams in an offense that had a good QB, not an average one like Kitna, he would be a monster in the NFL...

I don't think that many people would be up in arms. I think it would be pretty well received. Do we have good info that Williams is still on the block? I know that was the rumor a while ago, still valid?

SC Skins Fan
02-20-2008, 08:17 PM
What about Andre Davis of the texans? the guy was money for the texans and caught everything thrown his way,especially looked good on the deep ball,plus he's a great return man also,I think he's 6'1" or 6'2" 195 .He was in a contract year and the texans cant afford to pay him more than 3rd wr money

Maybe the Hokie fans would be excited, but I'd say no one should pay Davis more than 3rd WR money ... since he is nothing more than a 3rd WR ...

T.O.Killa
02-20-2008, 08:33 PM
I love the thought of getting this guy. Everyone is always concerned that we need a number one reciever. I think what we need is a possession reciever, and Johnson could be that guy. It would be hard for anyone to shine, with Bolden and Fitzgerald. I also think that the Redskins recievers are very underated. Its up to Jason Campbell to improve, for them to shine.

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