Game Positives and Negatives

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illdefined
08-16-2004, 02:02 AM
fumbling snaps and throwing bad INTs is NOwhere on the playbook...

That Guy
08-16-2004, 03:59 AM
correct, there's no reason for fumbling snaps... the ints are partially due to being too predictable.

offiss
08-16-2004, 04:03 AM
Taylor comes just as advertised, what a great job he did of stripping that ball, although we didn't get the recovery, you can see his instinct's for the ball, this kid was born to play football.

That Guy
08-16-2004, 04:06 AM
i said if taylor did well after tampa i'd forget about his offseason, but it seems i'm already having trouble remembering what all that fuss was about...

CRT3
08-16-2004, 08:13 AM
I hope Joe Bugel can make me wrong about Samuels be cause he cost TWO first round picks to get him! What 2 1st Round Picks? We finsihed bad that year adn recieved the 3 pick in the draft and the previous year we traded down with the Saints, so they could pick Rickey Williams and we picked Champ. We also recieved their number 1 the next year which was the 2nd pick in the 1st Round. Who did we get , Lavar!!! So maybe I meesed somthing but how did he cost us 2 first rounders?

MTK
08-16-2004, 09:18 AM
What 2 1st Round Picks? We finsihed bad that year adn recieved the 3 pick in the draft and the previous year we traded down with the Saints, so they could pick Rickey Williams and we picked Champ. We also recieved their number 1 the next year which was the 2nd pick in the 1st Round. Who did we get , Lavar!!! So maybe I meesed somthing but how did he cost us 2 first rounders?
seriously, someone's math doesn't add up here

]<ing
08-16-2004, 10:03 AM
As far as Portis is concerned -- it seems that Gibbs isn't running anything allowing him to get to the outside and really use his speed. I only listened to the first half on radio, but that's what it sounded like. I think that Gibbs just knows it's preseason, and doesn't want to show his hand until week one.

The QB play so far is a little troubling though.

CRT3
08-16-2004, 10:09 AM
Maybe I shouldn't give Portis a negative but he does seems to beat the lineman to the point of attack in the counter trey. One carry shouldn't count as this is the 1st play of the game that Ramsey fumbled the snap. He picked it up and somehow got it to Portis who took it for a yard or two. A broken play should not count. They ran 2 basic plays that I saw, counter trey and the gut run. Mostly gut runs which is purely vanilla football.

Beemnseven
08-16-2004, 10:42 AM
Positives
Starting O-line
The Rock, Sultan, Coles, Cooley, Mcants
D-line
S. Taylor Forced Fumble
SPECIAL TEAMS

Negatives
Ramsey (2 Fumbles and 1 Interception)
Portis - No Spunk in his step, not patient
Jacobs - Lined up wrong on 2 occasions - Looked confused
Penalties
Backup Coners

I don't know how anyone can draw anything positive from the O-line, Rock Cartwright or Sultan. Up until the 4th quarter we had 39 yards rushing, and 15 of that was from a scramble by Hasslebeck. Other than one run each by Rock and McCullough against the Panther scrubs late in the game, the rushing attack was pathetic.

And I don't buy into the notion that the offense is sputtering because the gameplan is vanilla. If it's vanilla plays we're running, then that's got to be basic stuff that everyone should be executing sufficiently at this point.

MTK
08-16-2004, 12:16 PM
The vanilla offense argument makes some sense when you think about it, if the defense knows what plays are coming it's pretty easy to defend.

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