SmootSmack
03-17-2008, 09:45 PM
they should take mike hart r-b second rd
Why?
Why?
(updated title): Make Your Day One Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 1-2)SmootSmack 03-17-2008, 09:45 PM they should take mike hart r-b second rd Why? SeanTaylor21 03-17-2008, 10:12 PM they should take mike hart r-b second rd If you have CP, Ladell Betts, Rock Cartwright, and Marcus Mason, why would you pick another running back, it makes no sense to waste a pick on an average running back when you already have guys way better than that. ibleedredskins 03-17-2008, 10:59 PM if rodger- cromartie drops to the 21st pick i say we have to take him.... we need corners.... springs is old, rodgers is coming back from an injury if he can even play (i think he might be out for this season also) and he has never been that amazing for us. SmootSmack 03-18-2008, 02:20 AM I still really like Cason. I think he's going to surprise a lot of people at the pro level. I'd love it if he fell to us in the 2nd round. Even with the hernia, still leaning toward Merling in the first round. That Guy 03-18-2008, 02:52 AM ...... Dirtbag59 03-18-2008, 04:48 AM Groves will probably most definitely be a 3-4 OLB. What I like about Harvey is that he can probably bulk up a bit and play on the inside in some sets. I'd prefer Merling or Jackson though. If I'm not mistaken Groves has experience as a 4-3 OLB. To me drafting him would give us the ultimate swingman. Or more of a rich mans Chris Wilson. Basically he could line up at DE on passing downs and fill in for whatever LB spot is open and eventually become a starting LB. So the message is don't sleep on Groves. He won't be a full time starter coming in but we'll find something for him within the next 2-3 years. However from a pure DE perspective, Lawrence Jackson is my pick. And honestly he would be the second or third DE on my board after Long and Harvey. Merling is solid, but honestly he reminds me of Smoot's BOY Justin Smith. Stout against the run but little to medium pass rush ability. Jackson on the other hand got 10.5 sacks last year from the LE spot in a conference that favors offense, (as well as passing but still the OT's in that conference are groomed to become pass protectors). Also as far as our potential Falcons dream trade scenario I came up with a rationalization. The Redskins have become extremely cheap so getting out of the first round is a must. The Falcons will hopefully draft Matt Ryan which will make our lives a lot easier. So why would the Falcons trade back into the first round? I mean they have a possible true #1 Reciever in Roddy White who defied all odds with a 1,200+ yard season in 2007. Well if the Falcons draft a QB then the next logical step would be find a LT to protect him. This draft is deep at OT so the Falcons can still find a potential franchise LT at 21 where as we're set at LT for the next 4 or 5 years. And as much as I would love Albert I would rather have 3 second round picks that could easily produce 3 starters within the next 2-3 years. From what I can see the Falcons could take a look at Gosder Cherilus who played LT with Ryan last year at BC or they could go with an excellent pass blocker like Anthony Collins, though taking him at 21 would be way to early. Ironically they could also make a play for Albert. They also might make a play at corner with the possiblity of a guy like Aquib Talib or Mike Jenkins being available at 21. Oh yeah, guys I hate to burst your bubble, but in the eyes of the scouts DRC is 1337. So theres no way he falls to us at 21......sorry. Oh well, look on the bright side. Corners are so last season. Safetys are the new corners in todays NFL. Of course I'm still stumped how 4 corners from small schools/Kansas (who was a Basketball school before last year) found their way into the first round in the same year. So Dirtbag359's current pipe dream goes as follows Falcons 3rd overall - Matt Ryan - QB - BC Falcons 21st overall - Gosder Cherilus - LT/RT - BC Falcons 3rd Round 21st overall - Probably a LB or CB that I've never heard of. Redskins 37th overall - Lawrence Jackson - DE - USC Redskins 47th overall - Chilo Rachel - G - USC (Could just as easily be Carl Nicks but we'll go with Rachel for now) Redskins 51st overall - Jordy Nelson - WR - Kansas State Lol, USC is the Redskins new Miami. Ironically they could take 3 USC players in the second round with Terrell Thomas being available at CB. SmootSmack 03-18-2008, 09:59 AM I got no problems with L. Jackson, but the similarities to Justin Smith are part of what I like about Merling. I'm probably in the minority here, but I like what Phillip Daniels offers the team; an everydown versatile player who is a strong run defender on the edge as well as an effective pass rusher (underestimated due to the low sack totals). Except we're at a point where we need a younger, slightly more talented version and I feel like (now that J. Smith is not an option) that Merling would be the next big thing. dmek25 03-18-2008, 10:18 AM smooty, i think you and Justin Smith have to be in the man crush thread, somewhere:) SmootSmack 03-18-2008, 10:52 AM smooty, i think you and Justin Smith have to be in the man crush thread, somewhere:) I already put him there :) SkinsFanSince91 03-18-2008, 11:44 AM [QUOTE=Dirtbag359;432825]If I'm not mistaken Groves has experience as a 4-3 OLB. To me drafting him would give us the ultimate swingman. Or more of a rich mans Chris Wilson. Basically he could line up at DE on passing downs and fill in for whatever LB spot is open and eventually become a starting LB. So the message is don't sleep on Groves. He won't be a full time starter coming in but we'll find something for him within the next 2-3 years. However from a pure DE perspective, Lawrence Jackson is my pick. And honestly he would be the second or third DE on my board after Long and Harvey. Merling is solid, but honestly he reminds me of Smoot's BOY Justin Smith. Stout against the run but little to medium pass rush ability. Jackson on the other hand got 10.5 sacks last year from the LE spot in a conference that favors offense, (as well as passing but still the OT's in that conference are groomed to become pass protectors). If DRC falls to us, which may happen as scouts have a harder time picking a small school guy in the top 15, we take him. If not, Im pulling for groves too. He gives us the most versatility for the pick, and in a year when we are pinching pennies, versatility will prove very prudent. If we pick up an extra 3rd rounder from the compensatory draft pool, then we may wanna look at WR, OT/OG, CB in the first (Sweed, Albert, Jenkins). Also as far as our potential Falcons dream trade scenario I came up with a rationalization. The Redskins have become extremely cheap so getting out of the first round is a must. The Falcons will hopefully draft Matt Ryan which will make our lives a lot easier. So why would the Falcons trade back into the first round? I mean they have a possible true #1 Reciever in Roddy White who defied all odds with a 1,200+ yard season in 2007. Well if the Falcons draft a QB then the next logical step would be find a LT to protect him. This draft is deep at OT so the Falcons can still find a potential franchise LT at 21 where as we're set at LT for the next 4 or 5 years. And as much as I would love Albert I would rather have 3 second round picks that could easily produce 3 starters within the next 2-3 years. From what I can see the Falcons could take a look at Gosder Cherilus who played LT with Ryan last year at BC or they could go with an excellent pass blocker like Anthony Collins, though taking him at 21 would be way to early. Ironically they could also make a play for Albert. They also might make a play at corner with the possiblity of a guy like Aquib Talib or Mike Jenkins being available at 21. Oh yeah, guys I hate to burst your bubble, but in the eyes of the scouts DRC is 1337. So theres no way he falls to us at 21......sorry. Oh well, look on the bright side. Corners are so last season. Safetys are the new corners in todays NFL. Of course I'm still stumped how 4 corners from small schools/Kansas (who was a Basketball school before last year) found their way into the first round in the same year. So Dirtbag359's current pipe dream goes as follows Falcons 3rd overall - Matt Ryan - QB - BC Falcons 21st overall - Gosder Cherilus - LT/RT - BC Falcons 3rd Round 21st overall - Probably a LB or CB that I've never heard of. Redskins 37th overall - Lawrence Jackson - DE - USC Redskins 47th overall - Chilo Rachel - G - USC (Could just as easily be Carl Nicks but we'll go with Rachel for now) Redskins 51st overall - Jordy Nelson - WR - Kansas State Lol, USC is the Redskins new Miami. Ironically they could take 3 USC players in the second round with Terrell Thomas being available at CB. Good post, but its still hard seeing us get rid of a 1st round draft pick even if we get on next year, it will look good NEXT year, but we will still have to deal with waiting, once again, to pick wayy into the 2nd. However, trading out of this first for more picksis a good look nonetheless. |
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