(updated title): Make Your Day One Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 1-2)

Funny typo by ESPN Insider. They have Kenny Phillips listed at 302 poulds and running a 4.45 40. Man thats awesome a 302 pounder running in the 4.4's.

Top 30 Senior Defensive Back Prospects in 2008 NFL Draft
Player School Position Height Weight Speed
1. Mike Jenkins South Florida CB 6-0 200 4.49
2. Leodis McKelvin Troy CB 5-10 5/8 190 4.44
3. Aqib Talib Kansas CB 6-1 1/2 201 4.50
4. Brandon Flowers Virginia Tech CB 5-10 1/8 192 4.45
5. Kenny Phillips Miami S 6-1 3/4 302 4.45
6. Dominique Rogers-Cromartie Tennessee State CB 6-1 3/8 183 4.44
7. Reggie Smith Oklahoma CB 6-1 1/4 196 4.45
8. Tracy Porter Indiana CB 5-10 5/8 184 4.40
9. Patrick Lee Auburn CB 5-11 7/8 194 4.43
10. Dejuan Morgan N.C. State S 6-1 1/4 203 4.51
11. Antoine Cason Arizona CB 6-0 190 4.55
12. Chevis Jackson LSU CB 5-11 1/2 188 4.55
13. Charles Godfrey Iowa CB 5-11 3/4 207 5.30
14. Thomas DeCoud California S 6-1 1/2 196 4.56
15. Justin King Penn State CB 6-1 1/8 190 4.40
16. Jack Williams Kent State CB 5-8 5/8 181 4.29
17. Marcus Griffin Texas S 5-10 1/8 198 4.60
18. Terrell Thomas USC CB 6-0 3/8 197 4.47
19. Tyrell Johnson Arkansas State S 5-11 1/2 200 4.56
20. Trae Williams South Florida CB 5-9 1/4 193 4.45
21. D.J. Wolfe Oklahoma S 5-10 3/4 200 4.46
22. Tom Zbikowski Notre Dame S 5-11 1/8 209 4.55
23. Simeon Castille Alabama S 5-11 7/8 190 4.61
24. Tyvon Branch Connecticut CB 5-11 1/4 197 4.47
25. Jamie Silva Boston College S 5-11 205 4.60
26. Craig Steltz LSU S 6-1 210 4.61
27. DeJuan Tribble Boston College CB 5-8 1/2 190 4.50
28. Jonathan Hefney Tennessee S 5-8 1/4 192 4.45
29. Terrence Wheatley Colorado CB 5-9 3/8 187 4.41
30. Jamar Adams Michigan S 6-2 1/4 209 4.50

look ma, a 5.3 40...

where oh where did the editors go?

if you want we can put money on it. the number of WRs that have 1500+ yards as rookies is almost non existent. I'll take that bet any day, and i'll bet AB's yards/game for his career remains better than nelson's too.

While I wont put money on it, because AB didn't even do it, I will say that "straight-line" speed doesn't matter as much in the NFL as acceleration and burst do. In college the hash marks are out wider making it easier for faster players to run across field and break due to their speed(see Reggie Bush).

I never said anything about putting up 1500 yards. I said the JNelson will have comparable success in the NFL, to that of Anquan Boldin. As for career numbers, I wouldn't bet on anyone who hasn't made it to the league yet (he could easliy get hurt and have his career fold, and as I result I would lose. Nice try though).

Jordy Nelson is probably one of the safest picks at the WR, easy.

look ma, a 5.3 40...

where oh where did the editors go?

It's probably because he doesn't weigh enough. If he could just gain about 93 pounds then he'd be able to get into that 4.4 range like Kenny Phillips. Another hundred pounds could push him up to the 3.6's.

After Further review, my first three picks are as follows:

1st ROund:
1a. Calais Campbell, DE, Miami - Can play DE on 1st & 2nd downs and DT in ideal 3rd down passing downs

1b. Quentin Groves, DE/OLB, Auburn - Can be a pass rush specialist for us, and he would be the fastest OLB in the draft if that were his primary position. So if Rocky regresses, he can step in

1c. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, TSU - Shutdown corner with all the attributes. Kicked @ss at the senior bowl

2nd Round:

2a. Brandon Flowers, CB, VT - Someone here put me on to him, and he is a beast. The most physical corner in the draft and has superior man cover skills

2b. Jordy Nelson, WR/KR, Kansas State - This is a reach right now, but after the combine, it wont look like one. He can catch, block, return kicks, play special teams, and he can throw the pill. A former HS QB, he was moved to safety as a walk on, then moved to WR. He stayed there and had a monster senior campaign. He went 122-1,606-11 in his senior year, averaged 155.1 all-purpose yards, and never had a game with less that 80 yds receviing.

As a former walk on he has all the intangibles to be a great Redskin, work ethic included.

While I wont put money on it, because AB didn't even do it, I will say that "straight-line" speed doesn't matter as much in the NFL as acceleration and burst do. In college the hash marks are out wider making it easier for faster players to run across field and break due to their speed(see Reggie Bush).

I never said anything about putting up 1500 yards. I said the JNelson will have comparable success in the NFL, to that of Anquan Boldin. As for career numbers, I wouldn't bet on anyone who hasn't made it to the league yet (he could easliy get hurt and have his career fold, and as I result I would lose. Nice try though).

Jordy Nelson is probably one of the safest picks at the WR, easy.

whatever, we can compare year by year for as long as he's in the league. he's NOT the safest pick, or else he'd be a lot higher than the third round. I'm not hating on the guy, but he's not going to make a lot of the plays that got him that one good year in college, and he's probably not going to be a stud nfl receiver.

I would bet he'd be consistent and that he could possibly put up decent numbers like a mike furrey, but drafted WRs without multiple years of proven success are generally a crapshot as far as nfl success, many don't produce till 3 years in, and we could improve more elsewhere immediately (like at DB, DL, OL, or safety) even in the bottom of the 3rd round.

whatever, we can compare year by year for as long as he's in the league. he's NOT the safest pick, or else he'd be a lot higher than the third round. I'm not hating on the guy, but he's not going to make a lot of the plays that got him that one good year in college, and he's probably not going to be a stud nfl receiver.

I would bet he'd be consistent and that he could possibly put up decent numbers like a mike furrey, but drafted WRs without multiple years of proven success are generally a crapshot as far as nfl success, many don't produce till 3 years in, and we could improve more elsewhere immediately (like at DB, DL, OL, or safety) even in the bottom of the 3rd round.

I feel you, but no one in the BIG 12 could check or stop him, and the funniest thing about it, was that the team was so crappy that you knew the ball was coming to him. Yet, no one could stop him.

Just watch. Once he does his thing in the combine, he may make it to the bottom of the 1st round/early 2nd. He was only projected as a third, for the reason that you stated, because this was a breakout year for him and he never spent his entire career at the wR position (walked on as a safety).

He would be a steal for us in the 3rd based off of the production alone, not to mention his versatility as a return specialist.

Yes we need help in other places, but WR is a place we need to draft to build upon. He would bring the work ethic, toughness, and guile that is needed from a rookie receviver.

PS
Dont sleep, or you will miss the bandwagon ride to Jordy-ville!!!

To me there is an odd group of first round corners coming out of small schools. Guess we have Rasheen Mathis to blame for that, which is ironic because I liked Rasheen Mathis when he came out. However having two of the top 3 guys coming from Troy and USF is a little fishy, not to mention Kansas, which before this year was solely a basketball school.

Mike Jenkins CB 6'0" 200 SOUTH FLORIDA 95 C 1 12 Expert's Take ,
Aqib Talib CB 6'1" 201 KANSAS 94 2 17 Expert's Take
Leodis McKelvin CB 5'10" 186 TROY UNIVERSITY 90 3 34 Expert's Take

Alright slightly new mock for Dirtbag359. To me this class gives us two starters and one potential starter that will definatly be a contributer in his first year.

1st - Calias Campbell - Phillip is 35 years old and Campbell has the size to play the left end. Also knows what it feels like to have a 10 sack season and is probably hungry to regain that form after a senior campaign where he only managed 6.5 sacks. Theoretically could move inside in nickle and dime packages and allow Campbell/Washington to rush opposite Andre Carter. Probably is a top 15 pick if hes allowed to come out last year.

2nd - Roy Schuning - would love it if Branden Albert fell to us but thats doubtful. This pick is a slight reach but he's the second best guard and he has an attitude that Joe Bugel loves. Played last year with running pneumonia, lost 18 pounds and never missed a snap. Has experience as a high school wrester and looks like a bigger version of Chris Cooley. Also played some tackle during his colleigate career.

3rd - Dre Moore - Has the potential to be an inside pass rusher due to his combination of size, speed, and quickness. Gets in the backfield and with proper coaching could turn into a solid starter. Had six sacks as a senior, the most since Shawn Meriman. Local product from University of Maryland that could be inspired playing for his hometown team, granted the Redskins are his hometown team.


Additonal notes: Wouldn't mind a guy like Kenwaan Balmber in the First Round but the draft is deep at pass rushing DT's and the quality LE's will be gone after the first round, in fact the next LE that can play both pass and run after Campbell/Merling is Kendall Langford who only was 4.5 sacks at Hampton.

Also with DJ hacket and Drayton Florance we'll be fine at corner and reciever, not great, but fine. Plus WR's in the draft are a crapshoot, ask the Raiders who have used the past few years drafting countless Recievers. Hasselback has also done great without a CJ/Randy Moss type. And for anyone that forgot the team with the great unit upfront beat the great Recieving core. We also got sent home from the playoffs early thanks in large part to Patrick Kerney.

Also I feel like the time to start rebuilding the OL is now. We suffered last year from not having quality depth and the OL is a huge reason why the team has been competitive in recent years. Plus three of our main starters are in their 30's.

Sorry SkinsFan91. I know Jordy Nelson is the sexy pic, but having the right guys in the trenches allows you to get away with a lot more then you would be able to otherwise.

Hey how many of you guys knew that Chris Long was Howie Long's son? OMGWTFBBQ!!!!

Also found this is USA Today
There's a chance there could be two Longs, who go No. 1 in the drafts of their respective sports.

"Long's brother, Kyle, is a 6-7, 290-pound, all-state left-handed pitching prospect who committed to play at Florida State in 2008.

Used primarily as a closer, Kyle Long struck out 67 batters in 32⅓ innings his senior season for St. Anne's-Belfield High School in Charlottesville, Va."

WTF! Does Howie Long have a daughter? Because those are some unbelieveable genes.

Hey how many of you guys knew that Chris Long was Howie Long's son? OMGWTFBBQ!!!!

Also found this is USA Today
There's a chance there could be two Longs, who go No. 1 in the drafts of their respective sports.

"Long's brother, Kyle, is a 6-7, 290-pound, all-state left-handed pitching prospect who committed to play at Florida State in 2008.

Used primarily as a closer, Kyle Long struck out 67 batters in 32⅓ innings his senior season for St. Anne's-Belfield High School in Charlottesville, Va."

WTF! Does Howie Long have a daughter? Because those are some unbelieveable genes.

yeah, that was pretty well known, and yeah, those are crazy genes. 290lbs pitcher? damn.