Baltimore Cop vs kid

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love them hogs
02-16-2008, 12:28 AM
I agree that this cop went way too far when he got physical with the kid.Maybe the kid deserved to be yelled at but taking the kid to the ground was where he crossed the line.To be honest when I watched the video I thought the cop didnt even tell the kid to sit down until he was already halfway down to the ground.As if the cop was only trying to take the skateboard but then stumbled and realized he was going down and started to say sit down to cover his ass.

I would also like to add that police officers have to be in complete control of every situation.Unfurtunatly some officers feel that they have to act like dicks to do this.The truth is that anyone could be armed and dangerous and you just cant afford to let your gaurd down.So while I dont like it at all when I encounter an officer like this I kind of understand why they are like that.

jsarno
02-16-2008, 12:56 AM
I know a lot of cops. I can say that of the many I know 90% of them woudl react similarly. There are seriosuly only a few that are reasonable people the rest are a bunch of power hungry pieces of sh*t. At no point in that entire situation did he act like a responsible law enforcment agent. The kid should have just asked him to leave him alone and left.

This has got to be one of the most ignorant posts I have seen, and it's screams cop hater.
My neighbor to the right is a Sheriff, neighbor across the street is City police, and I have 5 close friends that are involved with some for of law enforcement. (7 total in state police / sheriff / or city) Not a single one of them is power hungry. They are great people that I bar-b-que with, drink occasion beers with and have a good time. They have very difficult jobs, and do their jobs with a TON of restraint. You should put yourselves in their shoes for 2 seconds. You have not one freakin clue what these guys go through on a day to day basis.
I am not defending the guy in the video, he acted out of line, but he has some truth to his comments. Kids do not treat police with respect, and I can only assume you are a kid with a comment like "the kid should have just asked him to leave him alone and left." What kind of nonsense is that? The kid SHOULD have apologized to the officer and stop calling him dude. To me, there were two people in the wrong in that video. The cop was absolutely wrong by throwing the kid down, and the kid was wrong by not listening and abiding by what the cop wanted. It would have went a whole lot smoother if the kid wasn't being a little punk...and I'm sure there was more to the video than what we saw.
This is a good tool for listening to people talk about the police, if you have ever been arrested and you have something bad to say about the police, you should be ignored. 99 times out of 100, it's your fault, and you escalated the situation with your mouth.
Sure there are bad apples in law enforcement, but they are few and far between.

jsarno
02-16-2008, 12:59 AM
Cop = Tool

This is a douche. Even if I was 14, and he put his hands on me, F-it, I woulda started swinging, cop or not. He had no right to get physical with the kid.....

Wow...simply wow...what are kids these days being taught?

Sure he had no right to get physical, but you think the answer would be "start swinging". Damn...I am getting scared as to the direction of this country.
Please tell me there are SANE people out there???

DynamiteRave
02-16-2008, 01:02 AM
This has got to be one of the most ignorant posts I have seen, and it's screams cop hater.
My neighbor to the right is a Sheriff, neighbor across the street is City police, and I have 5 close friends that are involved with some for of law enforcement. (7 total in state police / sheriff / or city) Not a single one of them is power hungry. They are great people that I bar-b-que with, drink occasion beers with and have a good time. They have very difficult jobs, and do their jobs with a TON of restraint. You should put yourselves in their shoes for 2 seconds. You have not one freakin clue what these guys go through on a day to day basis.
I am not defending the guy in the video, he acted out of line, but he has some truth to his comments. Kids do not treat police with respect, and I can only assume you are a kid with a comment like "the kid should have just asked him to leave him alone and left." What kind of nonsense is that? The kid SHOULD have apologized to the officer and stop calling him dude. To me, there were two people in the wrong in that video. The cop was absolutely wrong by throwing the kid down, and the kid was wrong by not listening and abiding by what the cop wanted. It would have went a whole lot smoother if the kid wasn't being a little punk...and I'm sure there was more to the video than what we saw.
This is a good tool for listening to people talk about the police, if you have ever been arrested and you have something bad to say about the police, you should be ignored. 99 times out of 100, it's your fault, and you escalated the situation with your mouth.
Sure there are bad apples in law enforcement, but they are few and far between.

I lean to the right when it comes to crime and punishment and I think most offenses (depending on the situation) should be punished.. Pretty severely. But all I see in this video is a 14 year old kid, being a 14 year old kid. If he was 16 or 17 then I could understand what you're saying but kids are in no way like the kids of the 70s and 80s where they were brought up with respect.

This kid is like a cupcake compared to the kids I had to deal with in high school. Those kids that went to the public school up the street from me.. Inner city kids. It was a scary thing.

EternalEnigma21
02-16-2008, 02:01 AM
This is a good tool for listening to people talk about the police, if you have ever been arrested and you have something bad to say about the police, you should be ignored. 99 times out of 100, it's your fault, and you escalated the situation with your mouth.

that's completely ignorant. Ive been arrested and had my life threatened by police who had a grudge against me for sleeping with a married cop's girlfriend. I've been arrested and assaulted for not having a vin plate on a truck i bought. I didn't remove it, and the charge was thrown out. As it turns out that cop (in a different state than the aforementioned, mind you) was called over because he was dating our neighbor who was a hooter's waitress that we had thrown out of a party for acting like a complete cunt the week before. It took him over 2 hours of detaining me with no reason (his original claim was that my truck had no vaild inspection sticker, which was true, but since it wasn't on a public road I wasn't in violation) to finally find something to charge me with.

cops are people of various character, just like in any other walk of life, no matter who they beat or who they barbeque with. some are attracted to the job to truly help people and that's great. some like to carry guns and sticks and feel empowered. the people who are drawn to that aspect of the job should be weeded out, but then who else are we gonna get to deal with the crack heads, and murderers and rapists... petty theives and arsonists, etc....

EternalEnigma21
02-16-2008, 02:09 AM
oh and my basis for calling that statement ignorant is that the people who are arrested have first hand knowledge of the situation. I'd venture that false arrests make up much more than 1% of all arrests and I fail to read any laws saying I cannot "use my mouth" when I'm being forcefully detained without explanation.

I find it peculiar coming from you, a person who believes so strongly in the 2nd amendment, since that amendment was based on the notion that the govt shouldn't be able to completely overpower the population, as that is the first step down a road that leads away from democracy.

CobraKaiDojo
02-16-2008, 02:09 AM
If your knowingly breaking the law and a police officer gives you a warning to stop. Then comes back later and finds you still doing it. He should have the right to kick the s*** out of your dumbass. You were warned! If the kid had just relinquished his board, the cop wouldn't have had to put his butt in the dirt. That guy puts his life on the line everyday to work in Baltimore City, and for his trouble he gets to be disrespected by punk kids. Shame on their parents for not teaching them better.

EternalEnigma21
02-16-2008, 02:19 AM
If your knowingly breaking the law and a police officer gives you a warning to stop. Then comes back later and finds you still doing it. He should have the right to kick the s*** out of your dumbass. You were warned! If the kid had just relinquished his board, the cop wouldn't have had to put his butt in the dirt. That guy puts his life on the line everyday to work in Baltimore City, and for his trouble he gets to be disrespected by punk kids. Shame on their parents for not teaching them better.


sure... remember spiderman... great power/great responsibility, and so on? there's protocol in place for those events. Grabbing the kid and forcing him to the ground is not in that protocol. Physical force was used on a kid (yes a punk, but still a kid) by an adult. Yes an adult. I expect any member of a community to use better judgment and act like a mature individual. If cops go around kicking the shit out of everybody it would have the opposite effect than you would think. It would be total chaos.

If the guy lets some 14 year old kids get to him so that he loses his cool and lets his emotions overtake him, what's he going to do when he has a real criminal in his face? You have to have composure. There's a major psychological aspect to that job and if you lose your composure you lose control, and that's when people get hurt. the guy's a danger and needs to be writing parking tickets, if he can handle that...

djnemo65
02-16-2008, 03:53 AM
There is no law that states kids must treat cops with respect. Ideally they do, and I think usually they do, but if they don't or if a police officer doesn't believe that they have the cop still doesn't have a right to exercise any punitive action other than that commensurate with the crime that has been committed. A good cop tries to diffuse a situation. A bad one creates a situation. This here is a very bad cop.

One of my boys from high school is a cop and a damn good one. I know some other cops too who are great people as well. But that doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of scumbags out there dishonoring the badge, or worse, thinking it makes them above the law.

SmootSmack
02-16-2008, 10:41 AM
sure... remember spiderman... great power/great responsibility, and so on? there's protocol in place for those events. Grabbing the kid and forcing him to the ground is not in that protocol. Physical force was used on a kid (yes a punk, but still a kid) by an adult. Yes an adult. I expect any member of a community to use better judgment and act like a mature individual. If cops go around kicking the shit out of everybody it would have the opposite effect than you would think. It would be total chaos.

If the guy lets some 14 year old kids get to him so that he loses his cool and lets his emotions overtake him, what's he going to do when he has a real criminal in his face? You have to have composure. There's a major psychological aspect to that job and if you lose your composure you lose control, and that's when people get hurt. the guy's a danger and needs to be writing parking tickets, if he can handle that...

Good post. And about the responsiblity falling on the kid's parents, is it the same kid who at the start of the video says he doesn't have a father?

There are plenty of good cops, but this guy isn't one of them. Better said, maybe he is but in this case he certainly didn't act like one. True, we didn't see the whole story but it's hard to believe anything happened that warranted the cop's actions.

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