Peter King on Zorn Hire

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GoSkins!
02-11-2008, 02:46 PM
Not to sidetrack things but when has Peter King EVER said that Snyder has made good decisions? As a mtter of fact, I have come to the conclusion that writers think that team owners should never have anything to do with managing the football team. Owners are a bunch of football illiterates that are incapable of making any decision related to football. I'd like to find one example of a writer speaking well about an owner that is involved with the team. Writers tell us that the only good owners are the ones that stand back and watch from afar.

Is it at all possible that an owner, who is involved with football 24-7 for more than 5 years, might have learned enough about the game to be a valuable decision maker in football related processes? I'm not saying "is" I'm saying "could be"!

SC Skins Fan
02-11-2008, 02:58 PM
Off topic, but I was just thinking about the NFLN show "Top 10 Scrambling QB's". Zorn was on the list, 9 or 10 I think, but I think there was like some goofy milk commercial from the late '70s with him and Steve Largent. It had some kind of jingle like "Milk, it makes your bones grow strong" or something like that. Couldn't find it on YouTube. Am I crazy or does someone remember that/have a link?

SC Skins Fan
02-11-2008, 03:05 PM
Found it. If you search "top 10 Jim Zorn" on NFL.com video search it will come up. It has a clip of the commercial at the beginning.

NFL Video Galleries (http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801f9767)

70Chip
02-11-2008, 03:06 PM
You are pretty much dead on.

Maybe a year or two off on VC though.

If he let's Vinny hang around calling the shots while the team struggles badly for 3 years, he'll find out what a negative fan reaction looks like. I hope Vinny turns out to be a genius. But, I suspect he's not and would like to see the day when Snyder finally breaks down, gives in and turns over the decision making process to a real life, NFL football person. And I would like to see it in my lifetime or at least my son's lifetime. Getting rid of Vincenzo is an important step in that process. In that sense, I'm glad it's his ass on the line now.

SmootSmack
02-11-2008, 03:30 PM
If he let's Vinny hang around calling the shots while the team struggles badly for 3 years, he'll find out what a negative fan reaction looks like. I hope Vinny turns out to be a genius. But, I suspect he's not and would like to see the day when Snyder finally breaks down, gives in and turns over the decision making process to a real life, NFL football person. And I would like to see it in my lifetime or at least my son's lifetime. Getting rid of Vincenzo is an important step in that process. In that sense, I'm glad it's his ass on the line now.

Well what I have suggested (not to Snyder, but to the board here) and what seems to finally be taking shape is that Scott Campbell be given a large role in the day-to-day management of the football team and Cerrato slowly move away from that. I don't think VC will get fired, but what you could see two or three years down the line is him having less influence on football matters and more on overall strategy and business matters. For example, he could work side by side with Snyder and Schar and DC Mayor Adrian Fenty on a new stadium.

GTripp0012
02-11-2008, 03:31 PM
I don't care how they arrived at the decision, and in the end it will be wins and losses that either vindicates this decision or proves it to be wrong. Time will tell.Well, I don't know. If this team takes three more years, and still can't reach the elite level, then we can say that the front office made some mistakes that cost us a shot at being elite, but we can't really project their failures onto Zorn.

Unfortunately for Zorn, he's now a head coach in the NFL and his legacy is going to be seperate from the effect his has on his players. He may win, or he may lose, but that doesn't necessarily reflect on the job he's doing.

Barring some major F-up by the front office, I do think he has a great foundation to work with. It will take some time though, we aren't ready to make the jump to the top of the league just yet.

70Chip
02-11-2008, 03:37 PM
Well what I have suggested (not to Snyder, but to the board here) and what seems to finally be taking shape is that Scott Campbell be given a large role in the day-to-day management of the football team and Cerrato slowly move away from that. I don't think VC will get fired, but what you could see two or three years down the line is him having less influence on football matters and more on overall strategy and business matters. For example, he could work side by side with Snyder and Schar and DC Mayor Adrian Fenty on a new stadium.

As The Dude would say, "That's interesting man."

My thinking about this whole case has been way too uptight. She fucking kidnapped herself, man.

Dirtbag59
02-11-2008, 03:43 PM
, the first thing that always comes to mind is his prediction that Wuerfful was going to have a career year as the QB in Spurrier's offense.


I think sports writes are like Nostrodamus. Their goal isn't to be right everytime, instead they make many predictions and then when they're right they go back and say "see I told you so." Hell I predicted Devin Hester was going to be a playmaker doesn't mean I can see the future.


OLB (should be DE)14http://media.scout.com/media/site_logo/rating.gifhttp://media.scout.com/media/site_logo/rating.gifhttp://media.scout.com/media/site_logo/rating.gifElvis Dumervil (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=8&c=1&yr=2006&nid=1793592)SR6-0/256/-Louisville (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=9&c=12&yr=2006&nid=83&lnid=124&rc=4&csid=127335)Miami, FL (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=9&c=12&yr=2006&nid=83&lnid=124&rc=4&sid=62)

(How hes falling to the 3rd round is beyond me. This is the type of guy that should be a Redskin. Tons of Football talent, chip on his shoulder, sprikle in a little Greg Williams and Greg Blache magic and you might have something special. Reminds me a little of T. Suggs except hes going to have to wait a lot longer)
CB (PR) 9 http://media.scout.com/media/site_logo/rating.gifhttp://media.scout.com/media/site_logo/rating.gifhttp://media.scout.com/media/site_logo/rating.gif Devin Hester (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=8&c=1&yr=2006&nid=1832026) JR5-11/185/4.35 Miami (Fl) (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=9&c=12&yr=2006&nid=83&lnid=124&rc=4&csid=127351) Riviera Beach, FL (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=211&p=9&c=12&yr=2006&nid=83&lnid=124&rc=4&sid=62)

(one word. Playmaker. Reminds me of Rascoe Paris except for the fact that he will play defense. Plus we might have to stick with Redskin tradition. Find a school in Florida and acquire all its players (If you don't get the joke then you probably shouldn't be here. Otherwise see Steve Spurrier and Shane Mathews) Also reminds me of Chris Gamble)



I also predicted that Adam Archuleta and Bradon Lloyd would be great players. I thought the Redskins were going to the Super Bowl in 2000. Thought that Maryland would repeat as NCAA champions. Thought the Orioles could make the playoffs back in 2005. Thought that Mario Williams over Reggie Bush was the stupidist move ever. I even thought at one point that Michael Vick could be a good pocket passer.

Nostrodamus was famous for talking non-stop. At one point people started writing everything the guy said so whenever something big happened, people had a huge catalog of vague predictions that they could point out as saying that this event was predicted by nostrodamus. Such is the life of a sportswriter.

GMScud
02-11-2008, 03:53 PM
I appreciate the fact that D.S. took his time with this hire and didn't rush into it. Obviously he wasn't comfortable with any of the other more qualified candidates or he would have hired them right away and not waited to talk to Spagnoulo. I liked Zorn's press conference, it reeked with knowledge and confidence. I'm looking forward to a fresh start.

Which part? The 87 "ums" he said, or when he referred to our colors as "maroon and black?" To me he seemed nervous, out of place, and he said in his own words that it's a "miracle" to be standing there as our head coach. Knowledge and confidence aren't quite the adjectives I'd use.

For possibly the first time ever I fully agree with Peter King.

OverseasSkinsfan
02-11-2008, 03:59 PM
Jim Zorn is an up and coming star in the NFL. Fassel's proven twice he's a dead end street and is further proving it today with his bitter reaction to the hiring of someone he himself endorsed. Got to agree with some of the comments above that if Fassel was such a catch, he'd have already been caught by other teamns looking for an OC or HC. No one was talking about him as an option until DS interviewed and now King thinks he's the answer for a team King never has a good thing to say about? Let King and Fassel muck around in their bitterness, but I think the Skins are better off with the rising star of Jim Zorn's optimistic leadership!

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