Skinny Tee
02-07-2008, 11:39 PM
[From JLC Insider:
"Spagnuolo and Jim Mora both pulled out on the Redskins and went on to lucrative deals elsewhere. Gregg Williams was on the verge of pulling out several times with Joe Gibbs urging him not to. Bill Cowher and Pete Carroll didn't want the job under this front office structure at all.
Looks like a highly devalued position. Hard to spin it any other way."]
Snyder's ill repute is starting to preceed him now. Coaches are now not even dumb enough to jeopardize their advancement for the windfall of riches that awaits them here as HC.
If Jim Fassel doesn't scream devalued position I don't know what does.
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SFREDSKIN
02-07-2008, 11:43 PM
Is he in the Bidwell, Al Davis category? I think his big ego is the problem.
LMsexyAO
02-07-2008, 11:50 PM
I think there are several coaches would want to work for the owner with the highest paid coaching and players staff. Who the hell wouldn't? Snyder writes any check to make this team better. Although he does treat the fans poorly, the only thing Synder is really guilty of in this coach-finding process is caring to much about the future of this team.
So far no one has yet to be publically OFFERED a job, so you can hardly say they are turning SNYDER down.
Hail2theskins
02-07-2008, 11:53 PM
I think there are several coaches would want to work for the owner with the highest paid coaching and players staff. Who the hell wouldn't? Snyder writes any check to make this team better. Although he does treat the fans poorly, the only thing Synder is really guilty of in this coach-finding process is caring to much about the future of this team.
So far no one has yet to be publically OFFERED a job, so you can hardly say they are turning SNYDER down.
Would you want to be the HC of a team with NO control of your own staff? Seriously, thats like starting a business and having some 3rd party choosing your partners for you, who wants that?
saden1
02-07-2008, 11:56 PM
You've got to ask yourself "Would I work for Snyder?"
Hell, if I were Fassel I would pull out too. I'm surprised he is still around seeing how he is just a bootycall.
BaltimoreSkins
02-08-2008, 12:00 AM
The national media seems to think DS FUBARed this coaching search and so do many local personalities here in B-more. I have to imagine it is the same scenario in other markets as well. The primary argument being that he hired coordinators prior to HC.
WillH
02-08-2008, 12:04 AM
I think there are several coaches would want to work for the owner with the highest paid coaching and players staff. Who the hell wouldn't? Snyder writes any check to make this team better. Although he does treat the fans poorly, the only thing Synder is really guilty of in this coach-finding process is caring to much about the future of this team.
So far no one has yet to be publically OFFERED a job, so you can hardly say they are turning SNYDER down.
Wasn't Jim Mora offered the job?
squrrelco3
02-08-2008, 12:08 AM
The problem with this thread title is you need to have respectability to lose it.
Justified or not, Dan Snyder has p*ssed off so many of the other owners by running coaches salaries through the roof and overpaying for bad talent, not to mention that he's gotten the worst PR since Satan, that no one is giving him the benefit of the doubt and everyone is going to go out of their way to see to it that he doesn't get a damn thing be it coaches or whatever without paying through the nose.
saden1
02-08-2008, 12:12 AM
The problem with this thread title is you need to have respectability to lose it.
Justified or not, Dan Snyder has p*ssed off so many of the other owners by running coaches salaries through the roof and overpaying for bad talent, not to mention that he's gotten the worst PR since Satan, that no one is giving him the benefit of the doubt and everyone is going to go out of their way to see to it that he doesn't get a damn thing be it coaches or whatever without paying through the nose.
Well said. If you want to get a raise, interview with Snyder or have your agent talk about a possible Redskins job.
SmootSmack
02-08-2008, 12:16 AM
I think people are making way too big a deal out of the whole coordinators hired before the coach. What about all the players that are here before the coach, should we just cut the whole team so the coach can come in and pick everyone he wants?
Secondly, so what if Spags and Mora went on to more lucrative deals elsewhere? Gregg Williams turned down interview opportunities with other teams and signed an extension with us back in 2006. Does that mean the teams looking for coaches had owners who were "losing respectability"
And Bill Cowher and Pete Carroll want complete control (especially Carroll), it has nothing to do with "this front office structure." It has to do with any team that isn't going to give his head coach complete say. But that shouldn't be seen as a knock on the Redskins.
Anyway, as I've said before, people want to hate on the Redskins now and the fans want to give up. Fine, let them. It's about getting things done between September and hopefully February. It's about winning and "impressing the fans" then. Now? The team just has to do what it feels right to put the team in a strong position come Fall. If fans want to bitch and moan about it, so what? F them. Just have a plan and stick to it