Skinny Tee
02-08-2008, 02:11 PM
One thing with all of this change in coaching staff is our new coach might not feel Campbell is the answer at QB. I know Zorn has been brought in to enhance Campbell but we still might need to draft or sign a veteran QB that the new coach will be able to stabilize the offense with.
But why change everything on JC again? Putting a young QB in his 3rd offense in 4 years is just a REALLY REALLY stupid thing to do. Don't you think? Putting any Qb in this situation is stupid. And if he really wanted to get rid of Al then fine. But why not bring in someone who runs the same offense? Cam Cameron was out there before Balt. got him. Snyder just does some dumb shit.
Or you could say keeping him in an offense that he's not exceeding in could also be seen as really really stupid.
Even if GW got the job he was going to make Saunders simplify things. That seems to tell me things weren't going all that well.
JC had his best season in college playing in a WC system. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Snyder and co. looked for JC's input when they went out and got Zorn.
skinsfan69
02-08-2008, 02:39 PM
One thing with all of this change in coaching staff is our new coach might not feel Campbell is the answer at QB. I know Zorn has been brought in to enhance Campbell but we still might need to draft or sign a veteran QB that the new coach will be able to stabilize the offense with.
Good point. But my point is we were stable with JC and Collins as 1 and 2 in the Al's offense. Why blow that up? You can always draft a young guy to groom and I thought that was Palmer. But I guess they thought he wasn't good enough so they hung on to Brunell another year.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
02-08-2008, 02:59 PM
Unlike many Redskins fans, I don't think Dan Snyder is the anti-Christ. Dan seems to have certain redeeming qualities as a person (e.g., starting a fund for Taylor's daughter and giving players and staff access to his plane for personal reasons) and a coach (e.g., willingness to open up his pocketbook). Moreover, as an owner, I think Dan Snyder has learned a lot and come a long way since 2000.
However, Dan also often acts very childish. Sending ice cream to Mike Nolan, threatening to ruin Coles' career, poking fun at members of the press at dinners, etc. are not exactly signs of maturity. So, while Snyder is not Hitler and is not a horrible owner, he does things that make it very hard for people to give him credit.
Defensewins
02-08-2008, 03:13 PM
What has Dan Snyder done football operations wise to deserve respect? After eight years of a failing grade (58-70 under Snyder) maybe Snyder has learned something and finally puts the pieces together to build a winner? Maybe.
Gibbs is gone so Snyder wants to go back to calling all the shots. Dan Snyder has a Jerry Jones ego but with out the football experience that Jones has to back it up.
SmootSmack
02-08-2008, 03:18 PM
What has Dan Snyder done football operations wise to deserve respect? After eight years of a failing grade (58-70 under Snyder) maybe Snyder has learned something and finally puts the pieces together to build a winner? Maybe.
Gibbs is gone so Snyder wants to go back to calling all the shots. Dan Snyder has a Jerry Jones ego but with out the football experience that Jones has to back it up.
Where are you getting that Snyder wants to go back to calling all the shots? Because he's named Cerrato EVP? Is that the reason?
Longtimefan
02-08-2008, 03:19 PM
Or you could say keeping him in an offense that he's not exceeding in could also be seen as really really stupid.
Even if GW got the job he was going to make Saunders simplify things. That seems to tell me things weren't going all that well.
JC had his best season in college playing in a WC system. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Snyder and co. looked for JC's input when they went out and got Zorn.
It has been reported that Snyder was not satisfied with the way the offense was going, so it stands to reason when Gibbs left, the offense was going to take a different direction.
JC will probably excell in the WCO, a system he's not unfamiliar with, the only difference being the speed in which the plays are executed, and the speed of the defensive reaction. I'm content to see how thing are going to work out as opposed to dwelling on negative presumption. The answer to all the negatives will play out on the field.
SmootSmack
02-08-2008, 03:24 PM
What has Dan Snyder done football operations wise to deserve respect? After eight years of a failing grade (58-70 under Snyder) maybe Snyder has learned something and finally puts the pieces together to build a winner? Maybe.
Gibbs is gone so Snyder wants to go back to calling all the shots. Dan Snyder has a Jerry Jones ego but with out the football experience that Jones has to back it up.
By the way, not that it's a huge deal, but isn't the record 68-76?
texasskinsfan
02-08-2008, 03:29 PM
Would you want to be the HC of a team with NO control of your own staff? Seriously, thats like starting a business and having some 3rd party choosing your partners for you, who wants that?
I must admit that I do like some of the things Dan Snyder has done in the community he lives in, it's hard not to appriciate that.
But getting down to football he is not a very good owner. What has this team won in the time he has been the owner? We've had three playoff appreances and that's it. Two of those three came in the four years Gibbs came back. Joe again has left the team in much better shape than he found it. I'm sure that Dan has his reasons for taking so long to hire a HC but still there must be something wrong with his approach in all of this that has keep him for hiring someone by now or that has made others say I don't want the job. It might be that no other coach wants to work for him other as the HC other than Fassal. Tell me that Meeks or Spags is not a much better choice than Fassal and Gregg Williams certainly was. The truth is The Washington Redskins have not been worth a damn under the ownership of Dan Synder and that's just that. I hope he sells the team soon. Because we as fans will never celebrate another world title with the team under Dan and his flunky Vinny C. Jack Kent Cook didn't agree with a lot of things Joe Gibbs wanted to do when Joe worked for Cook but he did so and things turned out pretty damn good I'd say, four Super Bowl trips and three Lombardi trophies to show for it.
Dan should have listen to Gibbs and hired Williams and things would have turned out much better for the team. It's truly a shame that this team is probably going to be around mediocore or worse with all of the talent it has just because the owner can't or want listen to the man who got this team back into the playoff 2 out of 4 years after being out of the league for 12 years and as I said earlier he has left the team in far better shape than he found it. It's a sad, sad time for the team and the fans.
But I've been pulling for the Skins for to long now to turn away so I'll just hope that things turn out well no matter who Dan hire as the HC.
So no I wouldn't want to be the guy hired as head coach after the OC and DC have been put in place. Because I would feel like I didn't have any control or the respect of the other coaches or the players.
Defensewins
02-08-2008, 03:30 PM
Where are you getting that Snyder wants to go back to calling all the shots? Because he's named Cerrato EVP? Is that the reason?
He is doing everything himself. All interviews at his house. Some HC candidates are sleeping in his guest house.
Mr. Smootsmack - are you saying he is not involved in every aspect of the decision making of football operations especially as it relates to the hiring of the new coaching staff?