Spagnuolo or Fassel?

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Monkeydad
02-06-2008, 09:52 AM
I am not completely opposed to Fassel like a lot of you are, he HAS been to a Super Bowl.

SC Skins Fan
02-06-2008, 09:54 AM
Spagnuolo (just call me a bandwagon waffler) and let's hope he can be our Jeff Fischer (coach for the long-term, sustained success even when presented with less than ideal conditions). I was thinking about this a bit and my initial reflex (after the OMG the Giants just whooped the Pats let's get that guy) was that Spagnuolo represented a typical Snyder hire; flashy pick, big splash type deal. But actually either leading candidate would seem a departure from Marty, Steve, and Joe. Neither really has the resume of any of those guys, probably wouldn't need to back the Brinks truck up for them (maybe for Spagnuolo much more so than Fassell). Plus it would just be a coup to take Spagnuolo away from the Giants after their big triumph. Like either more than Mariucchi, though I am in the decided minority there, Spagnuolo would certainly be more exciting (though I keep reminding myself that offseason excitement has yet to translate into on-field performance for this team).

SC Skins Fan
02-06-2008, 10:00 AM
I am not completely opposed to Fassel like a lot of you are, he HAS been to a Super Bowl.

I actually get the sense that the tone has softened considerably towards Fassell on this site. Even though he is getting less votes, you'll note that almost everyone prefaces their comments with "but I'd be ok with either" and, of course, SmootSmack makes a strong case for Fassell. Cooler heads have prevailed, it seems, and though I am sure some vitriol remains, I think most every thoughtful Redskins fan (so that is excluding the yahoos you see interviewed on the street by local news - I'm assuming here since I can't actually watch local D.C. stations) will be ok with either choice. If it was Snyder's intention (or at least part of it) to allow things to cool down before hiring Fassell then he seems to have succeeded and my hats off to him for that.

Rationally, Fassell is probably the smarter choice (basically his staff in place, prior coaching experience, not the 'sexy' pick). Emotionally Spagnuolo clearly has the edge. Let's see how this thing plays out in the long run. Arguments to be made on either side I think.

freddyg12
02-06-2008, 10:02 AM
Spagnuolo has the potential to be a great coach, he also has the potential to be a total failure. I can think of far worse choices than him, but I can also think of one person who is probably a better fit for this team...Jim Fassel.

The way the team has been structured with Blache and Zorn leading the defense and offense, respectively, it just strikes me as making more sense to have a veteran head coach with offensive experience overseeing everything in a CEO type role with more emphasis on assisting Zorn (but then I think of what the Cowboys did with Garrett, and maybe Zorn doesn't need a helping hand.)

Still, I see what a "retread" like Tom Coughlin did this year, which was essentially just stay out of the way of his top coordinators and just intercede when needed and I don't see why Fassel can't do the same.

Tough to argue against this & that may in fact be what DS is going through; he's hired the coordinators & put the structure in place for Fassel, assuming that the report about a deal being in place 2 weeks ago is true.

Yet on the other hand he may really want to hire the fresher choice in Spags even if it means risking some friction between the staff, most notably w/Spags & Blache.

Regardless, it's still good that DS is interviewing Spags, a former iggles & g men coach. Can't blame him for taking the time to pick his brain for info.

gibbsisgod
02-06-2008, 10:02 AM
I want Spags! No questions asked. I think Snyder wants to get a coach that is gonna be here for many years to come. That is why its taking so long. We don't need another coach that isn't a long term answer.

Question: Does anybody really believe Fassel is the longterm answer or is he a stopgap coach until the "sexy' hire becomes available? If you want Fassel, are you prepared to be looking for a coach again in a coupe of years? Spaggs might not be the longterm answer either but I would think the odds of him sticking around would be alot better.
I don't know if Spags is the longterm answer, but I think Snyder does.

MTK
02-06-2008, 10:04 AM
Spagnuolo has the potential to be a great coach, he also has the potential to be a total failure. I can think of far worse choices than him, but I can also think of one person who is probably a better fit for this team...Jim Fassel.

The way the team has been structured with Blache and Zorn leading the defense and offense, respectively, it just strikes me as making more sense to have a veteran head coach with offensive experience overseeing everything in a CEO type role with more emphasis on assisting Zorn (but then I think of what the Cowboys did with Garrett, and maybe Zorn doesn't need a helping hand.)

Still, I see what a "retread" like Tom Coughlin did this year, which was essentially just stay out of the way of his top coordinators and just intercede when needed and I don't see why Fassel can't do the same.

Nothing to argue with here. I think Fassel would definitely be the smart choice, or maybe I should say the safe choice. But Spagnoulo would bring the splash that Snyder is known for. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

celts32
02-06-2008, 10:07 AM
Spagnuolo has the potential to be a great coach, he also has the potential to be a total failure. I can think of far worse choices than him, but I can also think of one person who is probably a better fit for this team...Jim Fassel.

The way the team has been structured with Blache and Zorn leading the defense and offense, respectively, it just strikes me as making more sense to have a veteran head coach with offensive experience overseeing everything in a CEO type role with more emphasis on assisting Zorn (but then I think of what the Cowboys did with Garrett, and maybe Zorn doesn't need a helping hand.)

Still, I see what a "retread" like Tom Coughlin did this year, which was essentially just stay out of the way of his top coordinators and just intercede when needed and I don't see why Fassel can't do the same.

Fassel may have had the super bowl appearence with NY whereas Coughlin did not get there in Jax but overall I thought Coughlin built a much better team in Jax then Fassel did in NY. Those Jags teams back then were tough. I thought Coughlin was a little better then to go in the retread category.

Big C
02-06-2008, 10:20 AM
fassell. i like the experience he has as a head coach. doesnt spagnulo just have one year as a coordinator? good coordinator, not sure if hes ready to lead a team to the playoffs yet as a head coach. also not sure if zorn is ready to run the whole offense yet, want a head coach with an offensive specialty

MTK
02-06-2008, 10:26 AM
Fassel may have had the super bowl appearence with NY whereas Coughlin did not get there in Jax but overall I thought Coughlin built a much better team in Jax then Fassel did in NY. Those Jags teams back then were tough. I thought Coughlin was a little better then to go in the retread category.

He's a retread in that he was fired once before, something that some people have held against Fassel.

J. Spanky
02-06-2008, 10:49 AM
The way the team has been structured with Blache and Zorn leading the defense and offense, respectively, it just strikes me as making more sense to have a veteran head coach with offensive experience overseeing everything in a CEO type role with more emphasis on assisting Zorn.

this is a sound theory. but i could just as easily see spagnuolo getting insterted into a position to use his obvious leadership skills to guide an experienced staff.

he would bring some fresh ideas to the table but they have the experience that he lacks.

either way, i'll remain optimistic.

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