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#56fanatic 02-01-2008, 08:38 AM He needs to just let it go. NFL is a tough business. People get cut, fired, traded. Just move on dude. Furthermore, the Redskins gave him his shot in the first place. How about some appreciation for that?
And I don't know what he means by Patriots having consistency. They've had a lot of turnover at the skill positions (minus QB) on both offense and defense. It's part of what's so impressive about them.
Everytime AP opens his mouth these days it seems it's to bash the Redskins. I liked him while he was here, wish we had kept him. But we didn't so he just deal with it.
I dont think he was referring to the player turnover. I think he was referring to the coaching turnover. The patriots have had the same coaches in place for years, other than the two that went on to be head coaches, but they had guys just move up that were all ready in the organization. I dont think he is bad mouthing them, he said he still respects snyder, he just questions the front office on how they do things, which is not something new. every player that leaves this team says the same things, so no one should be surprised by this.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-01-2008, 09:57 AM I have no clue why Pierce felt so disrespected by the organization since, even according to Pierce, the Redskins ultimately offered him essentially the same contract the Giants did. If he had a problem with the Redskins initial offer, he should grow up and realize that business is business and lowballing/highballing is a part of business negotiations.
That said, Pierce is not alone in his sentiments. Guys like Arrington, Coles, and Bailey appear to have a similar view of the Redskins. I'm no Snyder-basher, but it's undeniable that Snyder can be very vindictive, to the point of acting like a child. It's also undeniable that Snyder was running the franchise like a fantasy team when he first came into the league. Unfortunately, first impressions mean a lot. Snyder developed a bad reputation and although he has improved over the years and is not the sole source of the Redskins woes, he's also done and said things that feed the erroneous perception that he is a grade A a-hole and poor owner.
Pierce is like a guy who gets married but keeps talking about an old girlfriend. Get over it bro. We've moved on, so should you.
celts32 02-01-2008, 10:19 AM Every skins fan wanted to keep him and I think at this point the Redskins themselves acknowledge that they should have kept him. It's time for AP to move on with his life...
Bill B 02-01-2008, 10:21 AM I have no clue why Pierce felt so disrespected by the organization since, even according to Pierce, the Redskins ultimately offered him essentially the same contract the Giants did. If he had a problem with the Redskins initial offer, he should grow up and realize that business is business and lowballing/highballing is a part of business negotiations.
That said, Pierce is not alone in his sentiments. Guys like Arrington, Coles, and Bailey appear to have a similar view of the Redskins. I'm no Snyder-basher, but it's undeniable that Snyder can be very vindictive, to the point of acting like a child. It's also undeniable that Snyder was running the franchise like a fantasy team when he first came into the league. Unfortunately, first impressions mean a lot. Snyder developed a bad reputation and although he has improved over the years and is not the sole source of the Redskins woes, he's also done and said things that feed the erroneous perception that he is a grade A a-hole and poor owner.
SGG - I agree with you. I just hope that with Gibbs gone that Synder does not reverse and get back to his old ways. Let Vinny do his job and get out of the way. If the Redskins fail than it is on Vinny's shoulders and he can take the blame. Also, lets hope Synder can keep whatever staff he assembles together for the next 5 years - especially the offensive side for Jason Campbells sake!
Player movement is common in the NFL - I believe it is something like 25% turnover occurs annually. So I think AP has a point on the stability of the FO and coaching helping with players.
over the mountain 02-01-2008, 01:52 PM AP's last year here was awesome with the way he barked orders at the line of scrimmage getting everyone in the proper place. good luck in the big dance AP!
SkinsTerps424 02-01-2008, 05:08 PM GiantOne.....you really do need to get over it.....I can't wait to see that Eli face on sunday....the one he makes after he throws an INT, the one that looks kind of like this->:(..ha
GTripp0012 02-01-2008, 05:24 PM GiantOne.....you really do need to get over it.....I can't wait to see that Eli face on sunday....the one he makes after he throws an INT, the one that looks kind of like this->:(..haThat does kind of look like him.
freddyg12 02-01-2008, 05:45 PM I have no Quams with AP, and in fact support many of his observations. I didn't want him to leave and couldn't understand why we did (let him). He says that we have no stability, and we do not. He has moved on, but still has heart for the team that drafted him. To him, like all of us, it is confusing to understand why the things that have taken place have.
IMO Pierce would have stayed in Washington for less than he was offered in NY. We would also be a better team if we kept the continuity of the coaching staff around for longer. Yes, every team struggles through a personnell turnover stand point every year, but it is the stability among the head guys that creates a dynasty. Case and point, everyone loves Joe Gibbs. He is the only coach able to win the SB with 3 different QB's. You can play it down as much as you want, but he is still the only one to do it. Why? Because he had some sort of coaching stability during his tenure. Now we are back to square 1 where continuity is lost.
Gibbs got him to agree to let the skins match the offer before he signed w/NY. They declined to do so & he went to NY.
I think a part of him still regrets that he made the decision on $ & respect. He felt slighted that we didn't match the giants offer so on principle left. It was part of Gibbs learning curve as team prez. This was also a big mistake of GW who underestimated his impact IMO.
I wish he'd never left, but as has been said we've moved on. It does at least say something positive about the team & his experience here, that he still is resentful. If he didn't like it here he wouldn't talk about it in the way he does. Same for Smoot he came back as soon as he could. That says that some guys do have good experiences in DC, it's not just the Coles & Lavars that define this team.
Longtimefan 02-01-2008, 06:06 PM Every skins fan wanted to keep him and I think at this point the Redskins themselves acknowledge that they should have kept him. It's time for AP to move on with his life...
It could be part of the reason why he takes his shots at the FO when the opportunity arises. He realizes he was popular with the fan base, and was peturbed at the way he was let go. I do however think he should get over it and move on with his career. That which is past and gone............
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