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SmootSmack 01-31-2008, 12:23 AM This thread is more so for the backrows and longtimefans of this board. I've always been kind of curious as to what the Jack Pardee years (1978-1980) era was like in Washington, DC.
Seems to be like he wasn't too bad a coach, but he ultimately got run out of town because apparently he and Beathard weren't on the same page right?
Anyway, we always hear about George Allen and Joe Gibbs and for good reason. But I was hoping to get some first hand anecdotes of the Pardee years. Was he a good coach? Did the fans like him? The players? Could he have gotten the team to a SB if given a couple more years? What was his style?
Thanks
backrow 01-31-2008, 01:19 AM It was....................................short. Players and fans liked him, but the teams were old and lost too often.
Maybe the FO was against him, but us fans did not have the same inside info as we have in today's world, with the i-net, talk forums, blogs, and Redskin insider. All we really had was the local paper (VAPILOT), which by that time, I had stopped taking because it was and is trash.
I liked the Pardee story because he was a Skin Cancer survivor, and I remembered him from his hard hitting playing days as a Linebacker with the Rams.
SFREDSKIN 01-31-2008, 01:20 AM I thought Jack was a pretty good coach and made the team competitive. The problem with Jack is that he inherited an old team with a lack of first round picks and other high picks traded by George Allen during his "future is now" campaign. I liked Jack and was bummed that he got canned, who would have know at the time that his successor would come in and become a legend of the game.
SmootSmack 01-31-2008, 01:20 AM What was his coaching philosophy? Was he like a Schottenheimer?
SFREDSKIN 01-31-2008, 01:22 AM What was his coaching philosophy? Was he like a Schottenheimer?
He was a quiet but tough guy, he was different than George Allen and wasn't a rah,rah guy like Marty. Didn't show much emotion. His records were 8-8, 10-6, 6-10.
I was a kid during the Pardee era. In fact, that's when I first became a serious Skins fan. I remember that folks were excited because he had been a part of the Over-the-Hill-Gang himself as was known for hardnose defense. He was also coming off a playoff year in Chicago.
His first season in Washington, the Skins started 5-0. It was, I believe, Theismann's first year as the fulltime starter and the fans really started to rally around Joey T during that run. Then, they finished 3-8 and fans started calling for Kilmer. (And the kids think a QB controversy in Washington is a new thing!)
I remember that during Pardee's run the defense tended to the star but the defense itself had no "big names". John Riggins was just starting to emerge as the running back he'd later become under Gibbs, but we wasn't yet the star.
In Pardee's first year, we had the famous 9-5 Monday night victory over the Cowboys. In his second year, we were within one blown timeout call by the refs of beating the Cowboys in the last game of the season and winning the division. Then, Riggins sat out his last year and that was that.
Finally, I remember that when JKC fired Pardee the fans were outraged. The outrage only grew worse when he hired some baby-faced offensive coordinator from the pass-happy San Diego Chargers. Everyone dreaded the idea that this kid - Joe Gibbs - would undo Pardee's hard work. Hmm... That sounds familiar somehow...
Luxorreb 01-31-2008, 05:12 AM difference being Gibbs is in Hall of Fame and Pardee coached a few years and got fired...
difference being Gibbs is in Hall of Fame and Pardee coached a few years and got fired...
Not to compare Pardee to Gibbs... there simply is no comparison when it comes to coaching skill and leadership. However, I do think it's interesting that fan reactions tend to follow predictable paths...
djnemo65 01-31-2008, 08:25 AM difference being Gibbs is in Hall of Fame and Pardee coached a few years and got fired...
I think he's actually comparing Joe Gibbs to Jim Fassel
freddyg12 01-31-2008, 09:06 AM This was when I first started to understand football a little & became a big Skins fan. I remember something was off about Pardee's time in DC, but I was too young to analyze anything beyond pure instinct. That said, I remember people talking about him. Seemed he came in as an odd contrast to Allen & it took people a while to warm up to him, but then people were surprised that he was fired.
Is it just me, or do some of the others here remember that fans & the general public used to be more upset when coaches were fired? I don't mean really upset, just that they showed more sympathy back then & a coach had to totally tank before people (other than in philly) called for his job.
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