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SmootSmack 01-29-2008, 03:47 PM Here is the site I pulled the Defensive Scoring (Points Allowed) ranking numbers from:
1999 NFL Standings, Team & Offensive Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1999/)
The numbers on the site appear to be in-line with what appeared to be Defensive Yards Allowed from TO's post. His quote got me curious. You can pull the other years from the site.
The press release was posted on JLC's blog:
Gregg Williams Is Gone, Blache Promoted - Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/01/gregg_williams_is_gone.html)
So you went with points, Killa went with yards, and we don't know what Redskins PR went with?
Who were the stars of some of those Bears Defenses? What about the offense?
BDBohnzie 01-29-2008, 03:48 PM I'd prefer this shirt:
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this should be an avatar...
Slingin Sammy 33 01-29-2008, 04:03 PM So you went with points, Killa went with yards, and we don't know what Redskins PR went with?
Who were the stars of some of those Bears Defenses? What about the offense?
I don't know what category the Skins PR could've used. Yards, Points Allowed, Yds Per Play, TO Differential? None of these metrics put them in the top 10.
On offense: QBs - Shane Matthews, Cade McNown, Jim Miller, Kordell Stewart. RBs - Curtis Enis, James Allen, Anthony Thomas. WRs - Marty Booker, Marcus Robinson.
2003 Defense: Phillip Daniels, Alex Brown, Briggs, Urlacher, McQuarters, Azumah, Mike Brown
2002 Defense: same, except Colvin instead of Briggs.
2001 Defense: Daniels, Ted Washington, Colvin, Urlacher, McQuarters, Azumah, Brown
2000 Defense: Daniels, Colvin, Urlacher, Walt Harris, Mike Brown
1999 Defense: Tom Carter, Walt Harris, no one else stands out
That Guy 01-30-2008, 02:45 AM For everyone who was yelling that continuity was out the window, it sure doesn't look that way now with a good portion of the staff returning and Blache promoted to DC.
whaaa???
it's an entire 180 on offense, from vertical to west coast, and it's the absolute wrong offense for the quarterback we've got right now (his thing is pretty deep balls. his short stuff ain't special).
yeah, on defense, we'll probably run a similar system, but on offense, we're forcing our QB into ANOTHER new system with serious questions about whether it's really the right thing for him. we'll probably need another #1 WR as santana hamstring insurance while we're at it too.
that's beside the fact that the new guys aren't nearly as good as the old ones... at least not judging by history.
whaaa???
it's an entire 180 on offense, from vertical to west coast, and it's the absolute wrong offense for the quarterback we've got right now (his thing is pretty deep balls. his short stuff ain't special).
yeah, on defense, we'll probably run a similar system, but on offense, we're forcing our QB into ANOTHER new system with serious questions about whether it's really the right thing for him. we'll probably need another #1 WR as santana hamstring insurance while we're at it too.
that's beside the fact that the new guys aren't nearly as good as the old ones... at least not judging by history.
Obviously the biggest changes will come on the offensive side, but Bugel is coming back.
I wouldn't be so quick to say the WC is the wrong fit for JC.
BDBohnzie 01-30-2008, 10:45 AM it's an entire 180 on offense, from vertical to west coast, and it's the absolute wrong offense for the quarterback we've got right now (his thing is pretty deep balls. his short stuff ain't special).
Campbell's senior year at Auburn, the one where they went 13-0, they ran a version of the West Coast offense under Al Borges (heavily influenced by Bill Walsh). Campbell's stats that year: 188-270 (69.6%), 2700 yds, 20 TDs, 7 INTs. 20 TDs might sound low, but consider that he was handing the ball off to Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown, who combined for 2079 rushing yards and 20 TDs. That was Campbell's 4th offense in 4 years at Auburn.
On top of that you have a guy in Jim Zorn (a quarterback in his playing days) who has spent the last 7 years molding Matt Hasselbeck into the All-Pro quarterback that he is today, as well as helping Seneca Wallace along.
So I wouldn't say it's the wrong offense for Campbell. And while he'll have some growing pains learning the new offense, I think he'll grasp it just fine and will be able to lead the team on the field this year.
freddyg12 01-30-2008, 10:48 AM Obviously the biggest changes will come on the offensive side, but Bugel is coming back.
I wouldn't be so quick to say the WC is the wrong fit for JC.
That will be interesting to watch, we don't know how west coast this O will be, there are always varying degrees from team to team. Seattle runs it but it seems they have a number of deep & intermediate routes mixed into their pass plays & they also do a bit of power running, which doesn't seem much different in the west coast o than in any other.
That will be interesting to watch, we don't know how west coast this O will be, there are always varying degrees from team to team. Seattle runs it but it seems they have a number of deep & intermediate routes mixed into their pass plays & they also do a bit of power running, which doesn't seem much different in the west coast o than in any other.
Very true. And Zorn will probably try to suit the offense to best fit JC's abilities.
That Guy 01-31-2008, 02:26 AM i'm not saying it's a guaranteed loser, but switching offenses like that is a huge gamble (though our super conservative O wasn't exactly lighting fires).
the college WCO is a lot different than it is in the NFL. There's a LOT more room for error, and he had better talent vs the competition in a lot of games there.
that said, even if it does work out, i doubt it's going to run 100% smoothly the first year, so we are probably looking at a setback in the short term (unless campbell just gets it or zorn is an amazing teacher). At best it's a huge question mark though.
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