Why the hate towards Fassel?

It's because Mooch plays BacciBall (jk).

There really isn't much. If you stand back and look at both they each have pros and cons. The difference lies in when they turned up as potential replacements for Gibbs. At first, we all assumed it would be GW. Then Fassell entered the picture and he was seen as the bad guy who was keeping GW from becoming coach. Now, Mooch is the anti-Fassel.
Seems dumb, I know, but it goes to "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Personally, I think Fassel is tainted by Baltimore and I'd rather not have another former NFC East foe coaching the Skins (Norv?).

Solid post. I can't believe you're the same person who started the "Are We the Lions" thread

I harbor no hate toward Fassel or any other prospective candidate for HC, and as I've stated before I will continue to support the team and the coach regardless of the selection.

However, I am biased towards hiring rival coaches, we all remember what happened the last time we went that route. The memory of Fassel is still fresh in my mind of being on the Giants sideline trying to beat the Redskins anyway he knew how. His last year with the G-Men is the one that sticks out in my mind because it was plain to see he had completely lost that team.

I have never been in favor of continuing to hire coaches that have been fired repeatedly from other teams. Welcome to the real world....When you or I get fired from a job, sometimes it becomes difficult for us to get another. NFL coaches just seem to get hired to get fired. If you've proven on more than one ocasion, with more than one team that you can't get the job done, then I have reservations.

At the time it seemed the Skins were hiring Fassel and flushing away the stable Gibbs coaching structure....it was really a Williams vs. outsider deal....and the outsider was Fassel.....I think if it was Mooch at the time the reaction would have been strong too because it included ditching Williams and Saunders and starting over.

The outrage was about dissing Gibbs, stability, common sense and patience.
None of us thought GW was stellar but stability counts for a couple wins a year.

Now that what is done is done, and we have to start all over, especially on offense....it comes down to who is the best coach...and that is a close call.
There aint nobody like Gibbs out there.....other coaches out there with playoff experience includes Shottenheimer and these 2.

People dont like Giants, Eagles and Cowboys....can you blame them?
Remember Turner?

The options aren't that great...thats why so many wanted the heir apparant to get the gig.

Lets ask this question....which coach would you be more afraid of in the playoffs....
Mooch or Fassel?

I say flip a coin....but Mooch is way more likeable and would represent a change in offensive philosophy that could benefit Campbell the most.

Just curious why people are so strongly against bringing in Fassel, yet are pro Mariucci. Just wondering what the big difference is? Is it just because Mooch is on TV and is a likable guy?

I don't like the idea that it was agreed that his team quit on him. At the end of his tenure, his team was undisciplined and disorganized. They brought in a "football guy" in Coughlin and he turned the franchise around in a few years.

So we are saying we want the guy who couldn't get it done in New York to come down to Washington? Do we want to relive the Spurrier years?

I don't like the idea that it was agreed that his team quit on him. At the end of his tenure, his team was undisciplined and disorganized. They brought in a "football guy" in Coughlin and he turned the franchise around in a few years.

So we are saying we want the guy who couldn't get it done in New York to come down to Washington? Do we want to relive the Spurrier years?

If you replace "Coughlin" with "Marinelli" then you are talking about Steve Mariucci. Just saying ...

If you replace "Coughlin" with "Marinelli" then you are talking about Steve Mariucci. Just saying ...
Marinelli hasn't fixed the Lions yet, especially after how they ended last season. Most likely they're going to be pretty crappy next year.

I'm confused myself. On paper both guys are pretty similar, yet as of right now Mariucci has a 70% approval in our poll.

What is the big difference maker between the two?

It's gotta be because Mooch is on TV.

I think people hate simply because he coached the Giants. Our rivalries run deep in the NFC East, and I don't blame anyone for the hate.

No Jimmie Johnson or Jimmy Fassel will ever be truly considering untainted if they ever wear the burgundy and gold!

Fassil's body language is too negative, and I remember that the players were not listening to him his last year. He also had a pathetic superbowl appearance. He would be a disaster. It is that plain and simple.

Check out the bio of Steve Spagnuolo! This guy has coached every part of the defense, and won everywhere. The Eagles were much better with him, and now he has made the Giants great. We need to get this guy, because it will help us, and hurt the Giant. Double Bonus!

giants.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=10

:doh:

Why does everyone seem to think that past success (or failure) will translate the same with TOTALLY different personnel, political climate and fan base?!

good research. I think as skins fans we like surprises. Fassel is just a boring pick. We liked the Spurrier pick becasue it was flashy and the sky was the limit. We learned that lesson the hard way. Mabye Fassel is the same pick becasue we already have a team in place to win now, not in five years, so he wants an experienced coach to get a trophy, not turn a program around

Nice observatioon S&C.
Soooo, perhaps the Dan, in boring us to death with the non-flashy pick is indeed making the intelligent pick to catapult us to the SB????????
Take a breath Neg fans....time will tell