Are the Changes really an improvement???

With the firings of this past weekend, I cannot believe that Snyder gave guidance from Gibbs any credence. That's what I find most disappointing. Gibbs knew the pulse of this team better than anyone.

Well how do you know he didn't give Gibbs' guidance any credence?

With the firings of this past weekend, I cannot believe that Snyder gave guidance from Gibbs any credence. That's what I find most disappointing. Gibbs knew the pulse of this team better than anyone.


I think many of us were disappointed with the way both Williams and Saunders were uncerimoniously released, it wreaked with disrespect as well as unappreciation. One would think they both would have been shown a little more common courtesy.

Well how do you know he didn't give Gibbs' guidance any credence?Why would Gibbs have asked Williams to remain in the hunt last week when Williams was ready to pull out when Fassel emerged as the leading candidate? That to me says that Gibbs advised Snyder that his first choice to succeed him was Williams. That's not just reading between the lines, that's commons sense.

I do think zorn's offense will help JC more, its similar to what he ran at Auburn so thats a good thing for JC. I don't think he was ever gonna be a "STAR" in the saunders system. As for Fassel not fossil he has a winning record and has gone to a SB with kerry collins!!!

Why would Gibbs have asked Williams to remain in the hunt last week when Williams was ready to pull out when Fassel emerged as the leading candidate? That to me says that Gibbs advised Snyder that his first choice to succeed him was Williams. That's not just reading between the lines, that's commons sense.

Yeah I agree that Gibbs apparently wanted Williams to succeed him, and that obviously isn't happening now. But I don't think it's fair to any of the parties involved to assume that's all Gibbs suggested.

For all we know, he also said:

-Someone needs to succeed Williams and I think Blache deserves it
-Olivadotti's contract is up. The players like him, let's make sure he gets an extension
-Scott Campbell has done a really good job scouting college players the last few years. He should be promoted

And so on. Incidentally, all of the above speaks to "continuity" I mean, I'm not saying this is what happened necessarily. But I don't think we should limit the whole conversation to what happened with Williams.

Williams got screwed, plain and simple. When the Redskins go to the SuperBowl because of these changes, I will change my opinion. Right now I believe that we are behind the power curve for at least 4 more seasons. At least alcohol is still being served in the DMV, I cannot imagine football season without it right now.

I was trying to avoid an emotional filled thread, however it seems the Snyder inflicted wounds are still open.

There is a second part to all this--- the PR image of the Redskins.


Gibbs did more for Danny's public image in 4 years than Danny did for himself in 40. Gibbs gave Danny all the positive accolades, if anything went wrong, Gibbs took the hit. However, whatever good will Gibbs built in terms of PR for Danny, Danny has erased in less than one month. This really should be a case study in a Coomunications class.

-Snyder misled the skins fan's with his "continuity" comment. If by it he meant, F.O. continuity, basically he and Cerrato, then it is still misleading.

-If he knew after 4 interviews that Gregg was not his man, then release him right then and there. There was no reason to keep him around for an additional 10 days. Bad PR move, Gregg is well liked.

- Keeping coaches in the dark while at the Senior Bowl, is disgraceful. From a personnel point of view, 1)does he really believe they will go the extra mile??? 2) Does he believe that those coaches are not spending time lining up interviews for themselves? There are about 10 coaches that still don't know their future (or at least it has been reported). I am pretty darn sure that Zorn will want to make some changes, make them now, let theses fellas out of limbo. Another disgraceful PR move.

There is one PR move that Danny can make to salvage this whole disgrace. Russ Grimm. I have read in other threads, where he still could be a candidate. Russ Grimm from a PR perspective would be a huge step in righing the PR ship. However, since Zorn and Blache have already been selected as OC/DC and Grimm has not been interviewed, then I am pretty darn sure Danny will strike out here as well.

I the PR image of the Redskins.

There is one PR move that Danny can make to salvage this whole disgrace. Russ Grimm.

I agree completely that Danny totally screwed up....and a marketing guru making such basic PR mistakes....

This only points to one thing....its not that he doesn't know better....its because he doesn't care...thats why so many fans have a problem with him.

And.
I do like your Russ Grimm idea as head coach...but if that were the case, they'd probably keep Williams and Saunders and they are now gone.

Just wild 09 speculation here but....in the future if we go after defensive minded Cowher...don't be suprised if they try to get Grimm to come over too.
(though I know we may need to compensate the cards)

I was trying to avoid an emotional filled thread, however it seems the Snyder inflicted wounds are still open.

There is a second part to all this--- the PR image of the Redskins.


Gibbs did more for Danny's public image in 4 years than Danny did for himself in 40. Gibbs gave Danny all the positive accolades, if anything went wrong, Gibbs took the hit. However, whatever good will Gibbs built in terms of PR for Danny, Danny has erased in less than one month. This really should be a case study in a Coomunications class.

-Snyder misled the skins fan's with his "continuity" comment. If by it he meant, F.O. continuity, basically he and Cerrato, then it is still misleading.

-If he knew after 4 interviews that Gregg was not his man, then release him right then and there. There was no reason to keep him around for an additional 10 days. Bad PR move, Gregg is well liked.

- Keeping coaches in the dark while at the Senior Bowl, is disgraceful. From a personnel point of view, 1)does he really believe they will go the extra mile??? 2) Does he believe that those coaches are not spending time lining up interviews for themselves? There are about 10 coaches that still don't know their future (or at least it has been reported). I am pretty darn sure that Zorn will want to make some changes, make them now, let theses fellas out of limbo. Another disgraceful PR move.

There is one PR move that Danny can make to salvage this whole disgrace. Russ Grimm. I have read in other threads, where he still could be a candidate. Russ Grimm from a PR perspective would be a huge step in righing the PR ship. However, since Zorn and Blache have already been selected as OC/DC and Grimm has not been interviewed, then I am pretty darn sure Danny will strike out here as well.

I don't necessarily agree. A good portion of the staff is returning and Blache was promoted. The staff was definitely not blown up. Maybe not what the fans had in mind... but I do think there will be a certain level of continuity carried over. Anytime you change head coaches there's going to be some change. In this case I think Snyder has done a good job at minimizing the change.

Are the changes really an improvement?

Isn't that kind of hard to judge when we haven't even played one down yet? I don't think we can judge anything until we play some ball.