SNYDER reconsider PETITION!!!

Do we need GIbbs to right the ship again already!? JEEZ!!!
He's meeting with coaching staff individually next week.



*If ya wanna hate on a thread there's plenty of Cowboys and Patriots fansites out there!
Remember we getting local television COVERAGE!!! Who says our voices ain't heard!!! Speak your mind Redskins fans.

You know what, as much as I called this thread retarded, I was surprised to read this (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/specials/playoffs/2007/01/24/redskins.coach.ap/index.html) this morning. I still think fans have ZERO input into this process and that is how it should be. Still, this seems to show that some people in the media are paying attention to these boards...

Is it possible - just possible - that Joe Gibbs did not come back here to rectify what he saw as the sorry state of his former team and that he actually came back for $5M a year for 5 years?

Obviously, we'd need access to his tax records and bank statements to see if that $25M was an inducement of any great magnitude, but might it not be POSSIBLE?

Not sure if you're serious or not but I'll answer anyway.

Personally I don't think his motivation was money. From what he's said they had an agreement in place and the money was something that was ironed out very quickly and it wasn't something that was even a big issue to him.

Gibbs does not strike me as the kind of person that would take on a job of the giant magnitude of being a NFL coach and team president with money being his only motivation. If that was the case he could have come back to the NFL a long time ago and cashed in. I think he showed his true colors by leaving the last year of his deal on the table and going back to spend more time with his family. His faith and family are his main motivations. That's why he stepped down the first time as well.

You know what, as much as I called this thread retarded, I was surprised to read this (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/specials/playoffs/2007/01/24/redskins.coach.ap/index.html) this morning. I still think fans have ZERO input into this process and that is how it should be. Still, this seems to show that some people in the media are paying attention to these boards...

The media definitely looks to sites like this to gauge the pulse of the fans, and in this case I think they might be using this as fuel to add to their fire. Does what we say bubble all the way up to Snyder? Perhaps. The question is how much does he allow it to sway his decision making. I'd guess probably not much at all. I'm sure he's pretty used to fans griping about something by now.

I really only see three options when it comes down to this situation. We are carrying a lot of momentum and have a strong team with a great future. It would be ridiculous to screw that up or mess with it in any way.

In no order

1. Hire Gregg Williams as Head Coach -- he deserves it -- let him decide what to do with Al Saunders and a DC.

2. Hire Gregg Williams as Head Coach and bring in Fassel as OC. (not sure how that would work or if its possble)

3. Go after and get the big gun - Cowher. Let him do what he wants.

I think that any other option will hurt this team for a few year till Snyder realizes it doesn't work. Even with Cowher, you still get a similar style of offense and strategy -- not to mention how well respected by coaches and players alike. I belive that is the ONLY way you take this team away for GW.

The media definitely looks to sites like this to gauge the pulse of the fans, and in this case I think they might be using this as fuel to add to their fire. Does what we say bubble all the way up to Snyder? Perhaps. The question is how much does he allow it to sway his decision making. I'd guess probably not much at all. I'm sure he's pretty used to fans griping about something by now.

Not to mention that since very little regarding the interview process is being leaked to the media they need some other angle (fan perspective) to write something about. Plenty of people have said that coaching the Redskins is a very enticing opportunity. It's a great non-Super Bowl story and the Redskins' oligarchy are not forthwith in supplying information about it. I like the long, careful process to getting the best possible candidate through these doors. Personally I could care less if any or all of the players want a particular guy. They are professionals and they'll play for whoever we get. Most may want GW, but really, don't most people want to stay with what's familiar? Once the new guy, be it GW or anyone else, gets here the players will buckle down and get back to business.

Not to mention that since very little regarding the interview process is being leaked to the media they need some other angle (fan perspective) to write something about. Plenty of people have said that coaching the Redskins is a very enticing opportunity. It's a great non-Super Bowl story and the Redskins' oligarchy are not forthwith in supplying information about it. I like the long, careful process to getting the best possible candidate through these doors. Personally I could care less if any or all of the players want a particular guy. They are professionals and they'll play for whoever we get. Most may want GW, but really, don't most people want to stay with what's familiar? Once the new guy, be it GW or anyone else, gets here the players will buckle down and get back to business.

Good point.

I really only see three options when it comes down to this situation. We are carrying a lot of momentum and have a strong team with a great future. It would be ridiculous to screw that up or mess with it in any way.

In no order

1. Hire Gregg Williams as Head Coach -- he deserves it -- let him decide what to do with Al Saunders and a DC.

2. Hire Gregg Williams as Head Coach and bring in Fassel as OC. (not sure how that would work or if its possble)

3. Go after and get the big gun - Cowher. Let him do what he wants.

I think that any other option will hurt this team for a few year till Snyder realizes it doesn't work. Even with Cowher, you still get a similar style of offense and strategy -- not to mention how well respected by coaches and players alike. I belive that is the ONLY way you take this team away for GW.


This is precisely why I am glad that the decisions aren't made by members of this or any other forum. It's great to get your opinion out there, and to discuss possible solutions and all that, but why limit yourself to only three scenarios.

I for one appreciate the fact that all options are on the table. What did GW do to "deserve" the position anyway? Unless it was in his contract, I see no argument for that whatsoever. Hire the best STAFF available period. Maybe the reason GW might not be the head coach is because the powers that be don't agree with the potential coordinators he would bring in. Maybe it has nothing to do with how they think he would perform as a head coach at all.

Bottom line is there are a lot of variables involved here, and I just want them to get it right. If that means no GW, so be it. No matter what happens, more than likely we will have new D and O coordinators. To me, those guys are the two most important positions.

Not sure if you're serious or not but I'll answer anyway.

Personally I don't think his motivation was money. From what he's said they had an agreement in place and the money was something that was ironed out very quickly and it wasn't something that was even a big issue to him.

Gibbs does not strike me as the kind of person that would take on a job of the giant magnitude of being a NFL coach and team president with money being his only motivation. If that was the case he could have come back to the NFL a long time ago and cashed in. I think he showed his true colors by leaving the last year of his deal on the table and going back to spend more time with his family. His faith and family are his main motivations. That's why he stepped down the first time as well.


Matty - I agree. Actually I read an interesting story on Joe Gibbs - he actually almost went bankrupt back in the 1980's on a bad real estate deal. He learned a lot from it and I don't think money is the controlling factor in Joe Gibbs life. Here is an excerpt on what happened to Gibbs and a link if anyone is interested in reading more about Gibbs.....

Joe Gibbs Life Story » Joe’s Story - Page 3 (http://www.joegibbsstory.com/joes-story-page-3/)

The third thing I want to share with you is that I have a problem with finances, I think. I don’t gamble but it seems like I want to gamble on big things. I got my job at the Redskins and I had a three year contract and man I said, “I could get fired here.” I wasn’t going to put my faith in God. I was going to make some money. I jumped out and made a financial investment over my wife’s best opinion. I found a way to make her say yes.
I got into this investment which was a land deal and a partnership and I was going to be a passive investor and make some money. Instead of just trusting God and coaching football, I was going to get rich in real estate. I don’t think I’m an egotist about football because I always know there’s somebody around the corner ready to knock our block off but in the business world I was somebody who thought he had this all worked out. I got into this investment and it was for about two years and all of a sudden I started getting late notices right before a football season started. I have a friend of mine, a guy by the name of Don Meredith, who’s very close to me, and sent him down there. He went down there and spent sixty-four days trying to work on this problem. I just coached the season. I said,” Hey, I can’t worry about this. I’m going to coach the season.”
After the season I beat it down to Oklahoma and when I sat down with the attorneys there were nine banks involved and it was way over a million dollars in debt. The interest alone was over thirty thousand dollars a month. I was bankrupt. I can remember the night when I figured all this out I got on my knees in the motel room and said, “God, I am bankrupt. There’s no question about it. I’m willing to go through this if this is what you want me to do but I don’t feel like I should file for bankruptcy. I feel like I have an obligation to these banks and to these people and I’d like to work this out. I’m just praying to you and saying this is the biggest mess in the world. Only you could straighten this out.”
I went to all nine of those banks and they all worked something out and you know what’s a bigger miracle than that? Not a one of them let out one peep to the press or anything else. All it would have taken was for one of those people working at those banks to say one thing. Hey, Joe Gibbs of the Washington Redskins and that would have been all over USA Today. They would have had a ball with that. It was miraculous.
I learned so many things about myself and my wife. That Pat stood up for me during that process, and my kids. I’d ordered one of them a car and can you imagine what that is like getting a brand new car? My son told my wife, “Listen, you tell Dad I don’t need that car.” I learned some things that I never would have learned about my wife, my family, and myself during that family crisis. Now the point is this. The world will tell you that you’ve got to win in all those things but I’m hear to tell you that God will work in those down times and adversity and He’ll mold you and make you and work through those processes. We don’t want to miss those things.
That was one of the most serious times in my life and I didn’t like it when I was going through it but I learned from it. I wrote down fifteen things that I learned from that experience. The world says you have to win in everything and we all know you’re not going to win in everything. There’s going to be tough relationships. There’s going to be things that happen to you in the business world and in your personal life. Isn’t it great to know that no matter what I do or how bad I can mess it up God will love me through all of it. I’ll wind up getting stronger and stronger and stronger as He molds me and makes me.

The Redskins is the first and only football team that I have ever rooted for. If Dan Snyder does not pick Gregg Williams as the new coach, it will be my last time rooting for them. PERIODAfter all is said and done(new coach), I will have more to say on the subject but for now.....

THATS THE DUMBEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD.