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dgack
01-27-2008, 01:14 PM
That's pretty irrational. What makes you think Snyder hasn't changed?

Because the way this whole process was handled smacks of the petty, pre-Joe II Snyder era. To wit: "leaked" tidbits about Williams' interview, cutting off communications with a guy handpicked by GIBBS to be his successor, interviewing retread coaches and "big names", and so on.

I get the desire to move on but I'm surprised how many of you are willing to turn a blind eye to the blatant lack of professionalism and then excuse it in the name of "being thorough". You can be thorough without being a prick. You can be thorough and make a statement to the media to that effect. You can be thorough and inform the existing coaching staff of your intention.

You can do all of this and NOT burn bridges both internally and among the rest of the league. Snyder has chosen not to do this, and repeatedly relies on Joe to come in and try to smooth things over.

Does that sound like someone who has changed for the better?

Hog1
01-27-2008, 01:14 PM
It's not that I don't want the team to win. It's that I really, really don't think Snyder deserves any success. I hate the idea that our players could work hard and earn a victory and Snyder's rewarded for what I view as bad management decisions.

Like a few others here, I'm conflicted and really don't know the best way to deal with it :/
?????????....................PUNT!

dgack
01-27-2008, 01:18 PM
If Snyder is taking his time to make the right choices here rather then the quick ones or the ones the fans are screaming for he is doing exactly what he should be doing. Fans didn't want Joe Gibbs to be the Skin's head coach the first time around but it worked out okay I think.

It's more important to pick the right guy then make a quick pick to appease an impatient and angry fanbase.

And just to make my position clear, I've *always* appreciated that Snyder puts his money where his mouth is. However, I really reject the idea that this whole process has been about being thorough and finding the right candidate. Everything about the way this process has been handled screams of a messy debacle, and it has very little to do with picking the candidate the fans like.

SmootSmack
01-27-2008, 01:21 PM
Because the way this whole process was handled smacks of the petty, pre-Joe II Snyder era. To wit: "leaked" tidbits about Williams' interview, cutting off communications with a guy handpicked by GIBBS to be his successor, interviewing retread coaches and "big names", and so on.

I get the desire to move on but I'm surprised how many of you are willing to turn a blind eye to the blatant lack of professionalism and then excuse it in the name of "being thorough". You can be thorough without being a prick. You can be thorough and make a statement to the media to that effect. You can be thorough and inform the existing coaching staff of your intention.

You can do all of this and NOT burn bridges both internally and among the rest of the league. Snyder has chosen not to do this, and repeatedly relies on Joe to come in and try to smooth things over.

Does that sound like someone who has changed for the better?

I agree the staff should have been more in the know about what was going on. At the same time, remember Gibbs stunned them all (Snyder included) when he resigned, so no one was really prepared for all this. Though they probably should have been.

As for the rest I think you're presuming a lot and ignoring a lot, I suppose to satisfy your own desire to be upset. For one thing, since when are Schwartz, Meeks, and possibly Spagnuolo retread coaches? Since when is Zorn?

SmootSmack
01-27-2008, 01:22 PM
And just to make my position clear, I've *always* appreciated that Snyder puts his money where his mouth is. However, I really reject the idea that this whole process has been about being thorough and finding the right candidate. Everything about the way this process has been handled screams of a messy debacle, and it has very little to do with picking the candidate the fans like.

Oh I see, so he needs to pick the candidate the fans like. Yeah, that makes sense now. So should the next coach be Art Monk?

dgack
01-27-2008, 03:24 PM
Oh I see, so he needs to pick the candidate the fans like. Yeah, that makes sense now. So should the next coach be Art Monk?

See, this is where your rhetoric betrays your true beliefs. You always preach that you don't mind people having opinions as long as they are "rational" and not "stupid", but then you go and totally mischaracterize my points to get a dig in.

Read what I wrote, I said this has very little to do with picking a coach the fans like. It has everything to do with the process that was followed (or lack thereof), and how completely unprofessional this whole affair has been.

SmootSmack
01-27-2008, 03:27 PM
See, this is where your rhetoric betrays your true beliefs. You always preach that you don't mind people having opinions as long as they are "rational" and not "stupid", but then you go and totally mischaracterize my points to get a dig in.

Read what I wrote, I said this has very little to do with picking a coach the fans like. It has everything to do with the process that was followed (or lack thereof), and how completely unprofessional this whole affair has been.

You're right. I apologize for misreading that post of yours.

dgack
01-27-2008, 03:34 PM
I agree the staff should have been more in the know about what was going on. At the same time, remember Gibbs stunned them all (Snyder included) when he resigned, so no one was really prepared for all this. Though they probably should have been.

As for the rest I think you're presuming a lot and ignoring a lot, I suppose to satisfy your own desire to be upset. For one thing, since when are Schwartz, Meeks, and possibly Spagnuolo retread coaches? Since when is Zorn?

For someone who likes to accuse others of being presumptive, you sure seem to have made a lot of assumptions about why I'm upset. "To satisfy my own desire to be upset?" WTF. You can read my posts back from whenever, I've been consistent since the day Gibbs resigned about my concerns and they aren't some arbitrary set of excuses that I've concocted so I have an excuse to bitch. You're way off base here.

We both know I'm not talking about the coaches you mentioned. Obviously they are not "retreads", again, if you read what I wrote, what I said was that what Snyder and Cerrato are doing now is eerily similar to what they were doing before Joe came along. I guess if you want to ignore Fassel, Mora, and Cowher, then you're right, I'm totally manipulating facts so I can be angry, and Snyder has just been being thorough.

squrrelco3
01-27-2008, 03:37 PM
Honestly, I don't care what Dan Snyder does anymore as long as we win...

I guarantee if we unleash a couple of Championship teams within the next five years, this ALL goes away...

SmootSmack
01-27-2008, 03:41 PM
For someone who likes to accuse others of being presumptive, you sure seem to have made a lot of assumptions about why I'm upset. "To satisfy my own desire to be upset?" WTF. You can read my posts back from whenever, I've been consistent since the day Gibbs resigned about my concerns and they aren't some arbitrary set of excuses that I've concocted so I have an excuse to bitch. You're way off base here.

We both know I'm not talking about the coaches you mentioned. Obviously they are not "retreads", again, if you read what I wrote, what I said was that what Snyder and Cerrato are doing now is eerily similar to what they were doing before Joe came along. I guess if you want to ignore Fassel, Mora, and Cowher, then you're right, I'm totally manipulating facts so I can be angry, and Snyder has just been being thorough.

Fine. Moving on

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