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QBall 01-23-2008, 12:20 PM actually some sound points here by Wilbon:
But to the outside world it looks like Snyder, with all these meetings, is trying to find a reason to promote Williams . . . or a reason not to. And that's fine, because Snyder is the one who's going to be on the hook for, what, $12 million at the very least? He ought to make sure he's comfortable with the next coach.
What I really want to know is how this fancy new title changes Cerrato's life. If he's got the exact same duties and has input but no power to make football decisions, so what? If he's the Boss of All Things Football, a position I keep pushing Snyder to create, then this could be a significant step in the right direction. Cerrato has taken more criticism than anybody in the organization. But I know this much: His advice as to what to do was wiser in several instances than the course of action the Redskins took.
Thanks for showing me how to post my link properly! :)
drew54 01-23-2008, 12:27 PM Help me understand this one.. Are you related to GW?
No not realated.
I really respect Gregg Williams and have enjoyed watching his defense play over the past four years(except 06).
That and I really hate Fassel. Almost as much as I hated Spurrier before we hired him. But I gave him a chance, and I suppose I will give Fassel one too.
ArtMonkDrillz 01-23-2008, 12:27 PM Maybe this should be in the Vinny thread, but I think it fits here too.
This is what really upsets me about the way this whole thing is being handled:
Other stuff: Two Redskins coaches have their contracts expiring, RB coach Earnest Byner and LB coach Kirk Olivadotti. League sources would not be surprised to see Byner end up back with the Ravens possibly in the same role ... The Redskins contingent in Mobile is up in arms. Players and coaches are distraught over the poorly worded press release regarding Cerrato's promotion and Jim Fassel's emergence as a candidate with multiple interviews. They are taking a lot of grief from other team''s people down there and, according to some league sources, the word "laughingstock" is being thrown around in regards to how the team is operating. The timing of the Cerrato release and the fact that it stated he would have "roster" control was a big issue down there; that's always the domain of the coach. The team later backtracked on that issue when I pushed it with them and said any new coach would pick the players, but the inclusion of that word, clumsily or not, read like a "shot across the bow," according to one GM. Of course the players and coaches have a vested stake in Williams getting the gig, too, as it would mean greater security for them and in many cases a contract extension or re-negotiation.Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/) (from JLC):
I know all the players and coaches are professionals, but why piss all of them off like this? Pros or not, they should have a big influence on the future of this team but it sounds like Danny and Vinny are just going to do their own thing no matter what.
QBall 01-23-2008, 12:34 PM Maybe this should be in the Vinny thread, but I think it fits here too.
This is what really upsets me about the way this whole thing is being handled:
Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/) (from JLC):
I know all the players and coaches are professionals, but why piss all of them off like this? Pros or not, they should have a big influence on the future of this team but it sounds like Danny and Vinny are just going to do their own thing no matter what.
Wow this is getting alot worse quickly!
redsk1 01-23-2008, 12:40 PM Maybe this should be in the Vinny thread, but I think it fits here too.
This is what really upsets me about the way this whole thing is being handled:
Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/) (from JLC):
I know all the players and coaches are professionals, but why piss all of them off like this? Pros or not, they should have a big influence on the future of this team but it sounds like Danny and Vinny are just going to do their own thing no matter what.
Yea, this keeps getting worse. This is why i stated last night imo, I don't trust our FO to handle this organization the right way. They seem to be able to p*** off our coaches and players like no other. For all of the bs "true redskin" talk and family talk they really could give a sh**. Maybe i'm overreacting a little but let's see what plays out.
Again, can't we do better than renting Jim Fassel for a couple of years?
redwagonskins 01-23-2008, 12:46 PM Maybe this should be in the Vinny thread, but I think it fits here too.
This is what really upsets me about the way this whole thing is being handled:
Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/) (from JLC):
I know all the players and coaches are professionals, but why piss all of them off like this? Pros or not, they should have a big influence on the future of this team but it sounds like Danny and Vinny are just going to do their own thing no matter what.
I'd caveat that to a degree. They are professionals but to what extent. If there is a new coach from outside the organization, and they are fired, do you think they are going to give their best evaluations of the talent in Mobile? It's like a boss firing somebody and then asking them to fill out some reports. Ain't gonna happen. They don't have to worry about getting a bad reference because everybody in league knows the situation.
Speaking of references, I wonder if DS called up the Giants and Ravens and asked about Fassel. If so, their response was probably something like "well he sucked so bad here we had to fire him but I am sure he'll work out great for you guys. Snicker."
scowan 01-23-2008, 12:58 PM If we are not going to promote from within (Greg Williams), then why are we going after another old fart re-tread in Fassal or should I say Fossell! Geez! I think I will sell all of my Redskins stuff and pick a new team, with a more normal owner! The rollercoaster we have all been on since Snyder bought this Fantasy Football team has to end.
redsk1 01-23-2008, 01:20 PM I'd caveat that to a degree. They are professionals but to what extent. If there is a new coach from outside the organization, and they are fired, do you think they are going to give their best evaluations of the talent in Mobile? It's like a boss firing somebody and then asking them to fill out some reports. Ain't gonna happen. They don't have to worry about getting a bad reference because everybody in league knows the situation.
Speaking of references, I wonder if DS called up the Giants and Ravens and asked about Fassel. If so, their response was probably something like "well he sucked so bad here we had to fire him but I am sure he'll work out great for you guys. Snicker."
It's not so much about pleasing the players, it's about hiring a strong coach that has the potential to be a coach for a long period of time. IMO that's not Fassel, it is GW. And if not GW, than find someone better than JF.
redwagonskins 01-23-2008, 01:21 PM It's not so much about pleasing the players, it's about hiring a strong coach that has the potential to be a coach for a long period of time. IMO that's not Fassel, it is GW. And if not GW, than find someone better than JF.
Agreed.
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 01-23-2008, 01:29 PM If we are not going to promote from within (Greg Williams), then why are we going after another old fart re-tread in Fassal or should I say Fossell! Geez! I think I will sell all of my Redskins stuff and pick a new team, with a more normal owner! The rollercoaster we have all been on since Snyder bought this Fantasy Football team has to end.
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