Fassel meets with Redskins over coaching vacancies

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Schneed, nice post - I think what people have to consider with Dan Synder is that his decisions are first and foremost made due to monetary considerations above all else. Bringing in a new coaching regime is all about marketing to Synder - retaining Gregg Williams or promoting from within would probably result in better on field results, but this is boring and does not create the "buzz" that a new big name coach can. Just like signing big name free agents, constant turnover is part of Dan Synder's marketing scheme.

I think you are completely off base with this. Snyder wants to win. He seems destined to be terrible at it but he wants to win. I don't think money has much to do with it at all. If it did he wouldn't spend twice what every other team does on coaching salaries and go 50% more than everyone else on cash over cap.

Mooby - unfortunately even if fans stopped going to games it would take many years for the season ticket contracts to expire before a "fan revolt" could take effect. I believe all Redskin season tickets have 5 year contracts on them, so fans could just not give up tickets next year in response to Synders decision making or lack thereof.

That's not right at all. My tickets renew evey year. I believe some people have contracts but most people do not.

Well I guess Gibbs, GW and Saunders are on that idiot coaching list.

You gotta be pretty stupid if you think I associate them with people like Jim Fassel. Snyder was probably gonna offer the job to Fassel in 2004 but then Gibbs came along and Snyder was like, hey, lightbulb, the greatest coach in Redskins' history came back and said he would like to coach the team again, that's obviously a better hire because A. the fans love him, B. he's the greatest coach in Skins' history, and C. he knows what he's doing so I can trust him with everything football related. Jim Fassel is an idiot and it's been proven, Gibbs is a winner and he got two assistants that even though they may not have been good head coaches, they know what they are doing on offense and defense. What happened all the pre-Gibbs years? Was that a success? Dan Snyder still made money off the team despite the fact that we usually had a shitty record, because that's what he's best at, is making money. The guy's a marketing genius, not a football genius.

Schneed:

I didn't say that Danny Boy created this "buzz" to make money. I said he did it to stroke his ego.

He also happens to be very interested in making money on the Redskins, but that's not why he finds ways to get himself positioned at the center of the stories about hiring coaches and signing flashy free agents. He does that for ego-strokes.

OK that's better than saying he does it to make money, and I can't rule you out as being right on that point. But to me the guy is about two things:

1) Making a ton of money
2) Trying to win games

The two goals are not exclusive of each other. Though to have as much success in business as he's had, he certainly would have a huge ego. I don't think he's manufacturing buzz on purpose just for ego reasons, I think he's just taking time to decide between Fassel and GW because he wants the guy who he thinks will win. Nevermind whether he knows what he's doing or not.

Can you please explain to me the financial incentive behind creating a "buzz" about your head coaching hire?

The Redskins sell out their stadium every year, so "buzz" does not sell you any additional tickets. The coach doesn't wear a number, so coaching buzz doesn't help you sell jerseys. As the fans "buzz" about the coach, they don't check Danny's websites, they check with the insiders like JLC, Jay Glazer, Mortensen, King, etcetera. So the only websites that get a boost are media-run and don't belong to The Danny.

Danny is a great businessman, but apparently you are not. I just love this conspiracy theory about the "buzz" being profitable. It's a myth.

The Danny makes money by, well, look on the pages of this website. There's an ad for Redskins Sugar Pourer, $19.95. Sugar pourer's make money; buzz does not. Buzz sells newspapers.

You gotta be pretty stupid if you think I associate them with people like Jim Fassel. Snyder was probably gonna offer the job to Fassel in 2004 but then Gibbs came along and Snyder was like, hey, lightbulb, the greatest coach in Redskins' history came back and said he would like to coach the team again, that's obviously a better hire because A. the fans love him, B. he's the greatest coach in Skins' history, and C. he knows what he's doing so I can trust him with everything football related. Jim Fassel is an idiot and it's been proven, Gibbs is a winner and he got two assistants that even though they may not have been good head coaches, they know what they are doing on offense and defense. What happened all the pre-Gibbs years? Was that a success? Dan Snyder still made money off the team despite the fact that we usually had a shitty record, because that's what he's best at, is making money. The guy's a marketing genius, not a football genius.

First let me just say- I do not want Fassel as our head coach.

But tell me, how has it been "proven" that he is an idiot? Sure his offenses stunk in Baltimore, but he wasn't picking the personnel, Ozzie Newsome was. Was Fassel supposed to win with Kyle Boller? Or Anthony Wright? How bout the fact that they had basically no WRs? That offense was set up to fail. And that wasn't his fault. Fassel won an NFC Championship and two coach of the year awards in New York. He also developed both Elway and Simms. And when he got fired from the Giants they went 4-12, but were totally decimated by injuries that year.

I love Joe Gibbs and overall of course he is a winner, but he was 5 games under .500 during his second tenure. And I think he'd be the first to tell you that's not really cutting it. Sure, he brought stability to the organization and built a great core of players, but apparently that's right back out the window.

I could puke.

If this were a Johnny Rockets, Six Flags, or Dick Clark Productions message board we can probably rightfully complain about Snyder only wanting to make money. Because that seems to be his main intent with those companies, to generate additional revenue streams and own multiple content distribution platforms.

That's the business side of Snyder. The Redskins are the fan side..which ultimately is his most basic problem. He's a fan with all the power to make changes. Imagine that any one of you here with all the knee-jerk posts you have every day, and then suddenly you had the power to make all those moves. That's a dangerous thing.

You gotta be pretty stupid if you think I associate them with people like Jim Fassel. Snyder was probably gonna offer the job to Fassel in 2004 but then Gibbs came along and Snyder was like, hey, lightbulb, the greatest coach in Redskins' history came back and said he would like to coach the team again, that's obviously a better hire because A. the fans love him, B. he's the greatest coach in Skins' history, and C. he knows what he's doing so I can trust him with everything football related. Jim Fassel is an idiot and it's been proven, Gibbs is a winner and he got two assistants that even though they may not have been good head coaches, they know what they are doing on offense and defense. What happened all the pre-Gibbs years? Was that a success? Dan Snyder still made money off the team despite the fact that we usually had a shitty record, because that's what he's best at, is making money. The guy's a marketing genius, not a football genius.
You said he happy hiring idiot coaches and last I look all three I listed were coaches. Then you counter argument was about a coach that never coached for the team.

That's not right at all. My tickets renew evey year. I believe some people have contracts but most people do not.

My best friends uncle has 10 tickets in differnt parts of the stadium - all of them are 5 year deals. My brother in law has 2 season tickets that are also 5 year deals as well. In fact every friend of mine that has season tickets are required to have multi-year contracts. The only ones I know of that do not are the partially restricted view seats that had a lot of complaints so Synder backed off - just my experience and knowledge of the season ticket contract thins - you are pretty lucky to get a renewal option.

Personally I wouldn't freak if Fassel is the guy. I always thought he got a raw deal in NY. And when you look at it objectively, he's a proven head coach in this league with a winning record that got a team all the way to a Super Bowl. The same can't be said for GW.