JoeRedskin
01-21-2008, 09:41 PM
Well first of all we are not anywhere near cap hell.
http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/21505-no-cap-hell-for-us.html?highlight=salary
Second of all trading someone away does not give cap relief. Their bonuses still accelerated onto the current team's salary cap making more of a salary cap headache.
Third, as has been said, Berrian is a FA.
Fourth - we consistently have an inflated idea of what our players are worth. Jansen is just not worth much in a trade.
cpayne5
01-21-2008, 09:49 PM
Fourth - we consistently have an inflated idea of what our players are worth. Jansen is just not worth much in a trade.
You have no idea what you're talking about, Joe. I know for a fact that Arizona would gladly trade us Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin for Jon Jansen. Heck, they would probably even throw in Levi Brown if we pushed them. And they'd be happy to do it!
JoeRedskin
01-21-2008, 10:02 PM
You have no idea what you're talking about, Joe. I know for a fact that Arizona would gladly trade us Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin for Jon Jansen. Heck, they would probably even throw in Levi Brown if we pushed them. And they'd be happy to do it!
Oh, I see - you heard it on the radio from Jay Glazer who heard it from Jimmy Johnson who heard it from Bram's farts.
hooskins
01-21-2008, 10:47 PM
Sorry did not realize Berrian was a Free Agent. I'm not writing a column by merely a thread so therefor I didn't conduct much research on the topic. thank you
Right but you could have searched and read some other threads and they would have helped in preventing this thread. It's ok we all do it though.
Daseal
01-21-2008, 10:57 PM
Ignore the fact that Berrian is a free agent and Jansens cap answer. Why would they trade Berrian, and a solid DE for an older injury riddled Olineman?
sportscurmudgeon
01-21-2008, 11:23 PM
For those of you who believe that Jansen may not be worth much in a trade - - probably closer to true than false unless he does a new contract with his new team as part of the deal - - can you explain to me how playing Heyer makes the Redskins a better team?
Heyer was mediocre at the very best. He had help on most plays where the defense was expected to bring a big rush on the QB. Heyer MIGHT develop and become a journeyman some day - - or maybe you've already seen him at his best. He's not someone to build your future OL around.
GMScud
01-21-2008, 11:58 PM
First of all, Jansen isn't "always getting injured." He had two fluke, severe injuries ending his '04 and '07 seasons. Aside from that he's only missed 1, that's right 1 start his entire career. And he never missed a game his at Michigan. That said, he turns 32 this year, and he's gonna have to restructure to stay a Redskin.
And there's no way the Bears would give up a legit #1 WR and a DE for a 32 year old lineman coming off a season ending injury.
Skinny Tee
01-22-2008, 01:00 AM
Just a thought. We are going to be in Cap hell this year obviously so...how bout giving Stephan Heyer the job at RT and trade away Jon Jansen who is always getting injured to relieve some cap. A possible trade would consist of the Redskins trading him to the Bears for WR Benard Berrian and DE Mark Anderson. The trade would fullfill two needs of ours..a tall speedy receiver and a good pass rushing DE. It would also suit the Bears seeing as they need help on the OL. It would then give us some cap room relief. What do you guys think? just a thought
I'd do it only if dynasty mode was turned off and we only play 3 minute quarters.
FRPLG
01-22-2008, 01:05 AM
Sorry did not realize Berrian was a Free Agent. I'm not writing a column by merely a thread so therefor I didn't conduct much research on the topic. thank you
No big deal. This forum in general is aimed at "Knowledgeable" discussion so when we get retread threads or misinformed threads we often probably come off as jumping down the throats of the posters. Ulitmately though we just like to set records straight and help people understand what is factual. Newbies I think get a little put off by us but we mean no harm(mostly). Stick around long enough and you'll know we love every thoughtful and honest poster.
prinzeofmoval
01-22-2008, 01:12 AM
forget berrian...lets set our sights on Ocho Cinco..whats is it going to take to get him here?