Yet Another Opinion That Skins Need A GM

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lespaul
01-15-2008, 11:37 AM
Snyder should bring in a GM - Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/a-1158269~Snyder_should_bring_in_a_GM.html)

Bill B
01-15-2008, 12:08 PM
I am hoping that is Greg Williams gets the job he is allowed to bring in Floyd Reese as the GM - that would be a perfect scenario for the Skins and would solidfy our FO.

SFREDSKIN
01-15-2008, 12:09 PM
Or Bobby DePaul and/or Charlie Casserly. Snyder owes him.

Bill B
01-15-2008, 12:25 PM
Or Bobby DePaul and/or Charlie Casserly. Snyder owes him.

Sfredskin - Is Bobby Depaul available - I thought he is still under contract with the Bears?

freddyg12
01-15-2008, 12:47 PM
Given the history of danny/vinny, it's easy to make this argument, yet it's as if the writer at the same time gives them credit (w/Gibbs) for recent free agent & draft acquisitions. IF this was Gibbs doing, then theoretically you replace him w/a coach that can have the same impact in personel. In addition, keep the scouting dept. in place that Gibbs put together.

Some articles have given GW credit for the youth movement on d. If that's the case, it seems he has been pretty good in scouting (of course, AA was a major fa blunder). I rode the GM bandwagon for a long time, but I'm inclined to think that if the front office is willing to change its philosophy & build through the draft more, then we have the scouts & staff that can make good on most of our picks, even w/the danny having final say. In recent years they've had few picks, yet have been able to find guys that not only made the team, but contributed and/or started. Let's see how they do w/a new head coach before getting the GM talk started again. That's my opinion & it looks like the way it will go given the danny's comments last week.

FRPLG
01-15-2008, 12:51 PM
I am so tired of this argument. I dont necessarily disagree but it has been made so many times and it is obviuos that they are not going to do it. I wish the media would just move on. There is no one alive who cares about football who does not know that EVERYONE thinks they need a GM and that Snyder doesn't. It simply isn't going to happen. Maybe some day but I seriously doubt what the media thinks or what we as fasn think has any bearing on it.

SFREDSKIN
01-15-2008, 12:54 PM
Sfredskin - Is Bobby Depaul available - I thought he is still under contract with the Bears?

His current title is Director of Pro Personnel. I believe that if they hire him as a GM that we could get away with it.

lespaul
01-15-2008, 12:57 PM
I am so tired of this argument. I dont necessarily disagree but it has been made so many times and it is obviuos that they are not going to do it. I wish the media would just move on. There is no one alive who cares about football who does not know that EVERYONE thinks they need a GM and that Snyder doesn't. It simply isn't going to happen. Maybe some day but I seriously doubt what the media thinks or what we as fasn think has any bearing on it.
I hear ya. The subject is getting real tired.

I realize it's just another opinion and we all know what opinions are like,but at least the article isn't about Jessica friggin Simpson or Coyd Boyd or who ever the hell that guy is.

Dogtag
01-15-2008, 01:09 PM
I have been watching the GM debate churn for some time now. It strikes me that debating whether the Redskins should have a GM is rather like debating whether the Federal Government should have income taxes.

Bottom line is that it is not our call (as loyal fans) to make. We may be vested in our interest and support for the team but that is a far as it goes - we don't get a valid vote on this issue.

Bill B
01-15-2008, 01:13 PM
I am so tired of this argument. I dont necessarily disagree but it has been made so many times and it is obviuos that they are not going to do it. I wish the media would just move on. There is no one alive who cares about football who does not know that EVERYONE thinks they need a GM and that Snyder doesn't. It simply isn't going to happen. Maybe some day but I seriously doubt what the media thinks or what we as fasn think has any bearing on it.

FRPLG - you are correct on this one - as myself and many frustrated Skins fans will agree that no matter how much the media or posters bitch and complain about the Redskins FO structure it is going to be a long time before Synder changes his ways on this one - I tend to beleive Synder might never do it just to try and prove everyone wrong.

I have had many discussions with other posters on the GM subject and my main argument has always been to have a seperate GM and head coach because when the head coach is also the GM often the long range approach to building a team is dropped and the win-now at all cost approach is incorporated because coaches are often under this mantra.

My next best hope outside of bringing in a GM is to continue using the approach of building the team using the draft philosphy. We have tried to buy the championship via free agency with Synder a couple of times and while it creates a lot of media buzz and increases marketing sales, successful on field results have not really happened.

I think when you look at teams across sports it always starts at the top and if an owner is smart enough to bring in a professional GM to run the ship the chances for success are almost always greater. Look right here in DC at the Wizards - Ab Pollin stuck by wes Unseld way too long and Unseld made some of the worst trades in history and when the team is finally able to land a good GM in Ernie Grunfeld look at the success on the court that followed.

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