Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor
01-08-2008, 12:42 PM
I second that notion of a GM.
Who is Next?Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor 01-08-2008, 12:42 PM I second that notion of a GM. jdlea 01-08-2008, 12:44 PM In the interest of continuity, I won't be pissed if it is Gregg Williams, but he was abysmal in Buffalo. There are plenty of guys who aren't great head coaches their first time around and then turn it around at their next stay (see: Bill Belichick) but I don't think the guy is a head coach. I don't know that he's even a top 5 defensive coordinator. I like him and he seems like a good guy and the D has been good under him, but he's proven to me that he can't really do much unless he has superior talent, therefore, I don't know if he should be a candidate. Also, is anyone else concerned that Al Saunders will be pissed if he's passed over? I mean, what do they do? Just have both of them run their own groups? That would be retarded. I think that was as much a reason as to why Spurrier didn't work as anything else. Whatever the case, I'm concerned. downtown4life 01-08-2008, 12:47 PM FROM JLC: There are definitely some people in this building who believe that Cowher fits the bill for what Snyder would be attracted to. Had a couple of people tell me that this makes a lot of sense to them. Now, as I mentioned earlier Cowher would want full roster and personnel control and probably want to bring some of his own people in as well on that side of things, and it could mean that someone like Vinny Cerrato got shifted to more of a consulting role as well. But I spoke to a source who knows Cerrato well who said he believes it will be Bill Cowher. He thinks that Cowher will get the keys to the kingdom and become the first $10-million coach, or in that range. "He's going to want the power Parcells had in Dallas," the source said. "Cowher's going to want to shop for the groceries. He lives in North Carolina, that keeps him pretty close to his home. I think that's where this thing is going." Given the heavy powers that someone like Cowher would hold, he would likely get a title similar to what Gibbs had, and thus that would continue to render a GM moot in the management structure. So, from what I can gather so far, and we're way early in this process, Williams and Cowher are the names to watch. People around the league have told me that Snyder and his people soured on Gregg after the 2007 season - it's usually hot today, not tomorrow around here - and were somewhat lukewarm at midseason, but became big fans again down the stretch, particularly after the Minnesota game. Still, these guys think indications point toward Cowher. Bill Cowher is without a doubt the biggest fish out there, and has a Super Bowl on his resume to boot, and that's usually who they target around here. THe NFL has rules mandating that teams interview minority candidates for these openings, which means the process generally takes some time even if club's essentially have made up their mind on a candidate. Greg Blache, the Redskins' defensive coordinator, has much expereince at the coordinator level, would fit that description, but he also has no head coaching aspirations, sources said, and has been mulling retirement himself for some time. So I don't think he would want to be a part of any dog and pony show; that's the opposite of Greg's style. MTK 01-08-2008, 12:50 PM Well, it's not like the Bills have done anything since Williams was fired. Let's face it Buffalo isn't exactly an easy place to win. Small market, a team that's not known for spending, and a tough draw for free agents. If guys like Norv get chance after chance, I find it hard to argue that Williams doesn't deserve a 2nd shot. jdlea 01-08-2008, 12:58 PM Well, it's not like the Bills have done anything since Williams was fired. Let's face it Buffalo isn't exactly an easy place to win. Small market, a team that's not known for spending, and a tough draw for free agents. If guys like Norv get chance after chance, I find it hard to argue that Williams doesn't deserve a 2nd shot. I don't think that saying "Norv got a second chance" is a good reason for the Skins to hire Gregg Williams as the successor to Joe Gibbs. I won't be overly critical of the move if they hire Williams, but I think he will fail if he is the head coach. Up until the stretch run, I wasn't even sure I wanted him back as the defensive coordinator next season. So, if Gregg is hired, he won't get a ringing endorsement from me, I will reserve judgment the same way I have about many of the free agent signings the last few years. I won't come out and kill him, but I will certainly have my doubts about the guy. BravesOnthePath 01-08-2008, 01:04 PM Williams def. deserves another shot at HC imo, and I'd prefer to keep GW and make him HC. With that being said, I can't say I'd have a huge problem with Cowher, I'm just sick of rebuilding. We've been through too many "rebuilding" years, and I don't want to have to go through that crap anymore. Holding onto Saunders is definitly a top priority as well. SmootSmack 01-08-2008, 01:05 PM I was thinking about that too. I guess all they would have to do is "interview" Blache and they're good to go. True. I keep hearing Blache wants to coach at the college level, though. We'll see. Bringing in Cowher would probably mean a change from the offensive stylings of Al Saunders and would be another turn in the learning process for Campbell. That said though, a Cowher style of offense you'd expect would be much simpler for a QB with less pressure to perform on him (and more on the running back) and maybe the team feels that's what Campbell is best suited for? The whole thing is just crazy right now. MTK 01-08-2008, 01:07 PM I don't think that saying "Norv got a second chance" is a good reason for the Skins to hire Gregg Williams as the successor to Joe Gibbs. I won't be overly critical of the move if they hire Williams, but I think he will fail if he is the head coach. Up until the stretch run, I wasn't even sure I wanted him back as the defensive coordinator next season. So, if Gregg is hired, he won't get a ringing endorsement from me, I will reserve judgment the same way I have about many of the free agent signings the last few years. I won't come out and kill him, but I will certainly have my doubts about the guy. I'm just saying when you see bums like Norv get 2nd and 3rd chances, why shouldn't someone like Williams get a 2nd shot? He's still one of the top defensive minds in the game, and he's had 4 seasons under Gibbs to learn and see how a Hall of Fame coach goes about their business. He's also had time to reflect upon his stint in Buffalo, and I'm sure he learned some valuable lessons from that. MTK 01-08-2008, 01:13 PM Williams def. deserves another shot at HC imo, and I'd prefer to keep GW and make him HC. With that being said, I can't say I'd have a huge problem with Cowher, I'm just sick of rebuilding. We've been through too many "rebuilding" years, and I don't want to have to go through that crap anymore. Holding onto Saunders is definitly a top priority as well. Pretty much my feeling on the matter too. Cowher would mean big changes across the board. He would obviously bring in a new staff, and he would bring in his own guys personnel wise too. But he is a proven winner, and he's still young. I'd prefer Williams to build on what Gibbs started, but at the same time I could certainly understand bringing in Cowher. Twilbert07 01-08-2008, 01:15 PM Bill Cowher power! He'd maintain the momentum Gibbs started, and he'd retain Gregg Williams and make sure we fire Vinny C.! |
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