KLHJ2
01-18-2008, 02:36 AM
Alot of college players will not wow you in college, but will blow up in the Pros because they worked hard. I feel Bowman can be that type of player based on what I heard Sterling Sharpe say about him.
I do not believe in drafting needs. I believe in drafting talent. But that is discussion from another thread.
EARTHQUAKE2689
01-18-2008, 03:37 PM
I hear people talk about Sweed's speed, but we need possession receiver. We already have speed with Santana Moss. We need a tall receiver that can outjump DBs and fight for the ball. Although I must agree with the discussions about not taking a WR in the first round. Oh well.
Limas Sweed will fall to the second round and we will be able to pick him up there. He isnt a burner but he is fast enough and standing at 6'5" he is like a Plaxico Burress
EARTHQUAKE2689
01-18-2008, 03:38 PM
I agree, as long as he goes middle 4th or later, he is a steal.
Bowman is another reciever who will be a steal for some lucky team.
That Guy
01-18-2008, 09:56 PM
Limas Sweed will fall to the second round and we will be able to pick him up there. He isnt a burner but he is fast enough and standing at 6'5" he is like a Plaxico Burress
see, if a DT is slow, his stock plummets right before the draft... for a 6'5" WR it's a bit different though. CJ ran a 4.5+, steve smith ran a 4.4+ (at 5'8"). seattle drafted jeremy stevens (6'7"-6'8" TE) just because he was big (but that didn't work out too well).
I don't really think sweed is a 1st rounder to begin with, but if he's still rated there after the combine (due to his size), he'll still go early. even if he falls, it won't be to the 53rd pick or whatever we have down there.
riggoraider
01-18-2008, 11:10 PM
He won't be there when we pick. If he was, we have higher priorities. DE, DT.
I think that you are right again by saying that Sweed will not be available for us at 21 ,especially with the emergence of big receivers like Andre Johnson, Roy Williams, Chris Chambers etc., etc...but...if he falls to 21 or we find another way to get him we must take him (that is if we do not address the situation during the free agent period) and should address the DE position later on in the draft. The Packers and their receivers are killing teams with their "YAC" that the big/strong/mobile receivers gives a team.
Our defense held up well (#8 in the NFL) and it really seemed that the line became stronger at the end of the season, so if it is possible to get Campbell the help that he needs in the intermediate passing game, I think that we should go for it.
EARTHQUAKE2689
01-19-2008, 02:25 AM
y do we need to see what Mix can do? What has he shown besides being a good special teams tackler that he is worthy of a shot to play extended time
freddyg12
01-19-2008, 12:47 PM
I posted in the Rock thread about the possibility of drafting Deshaun Jackson of Cal w/our first pick. While I don't think WR is overall our highest priority, Jackson fills an immediate need; punt & kickoff returns, while bringing burner ability (4.3) at wr.
I don't see ARE returning punts unless there's no better alternative & Rock might leave/they'll let him go.
That Guy
01-19-2008, 01:14 PM
I posted in the Rock thread about the possibility of drafting Deshaun Jackson of Cal w/our first pick. While I don't think WR is overall our highest priority, Jackson fills an immediate need; punt & kickoff returns, while bringing burner ability (4.3) at wr.
I don't see ARE returning punts unless there's no better alternative & Rock might leave/they'll let him go.
jackson is the best WR this draft and runs a 4.3... there's no way he'll be there at 21. none.
freddyg12
01-19-2008, 01:56 PM
jackson is the best WR this draft and runs a 4.3... there's no way he'll be there at 21. none.
That Guy, I responed in the other thread as well. If Jackson indeed runs a 4.3 you're probably right. On the other hand, there's a good chance he runs 4.4 or slower, which might mean his stock falls but that he still has avg. to above avg. nfl speed.
What the combine often reveals more than any other attributes are speed & strength. Colleges frequently say they have a guy that runs 4.3-4.4. This is because a lot of them are either running hand timed by their coaches or whatever timing method they're using isn't as precise as the nfl combine. Hand timing ususally takes off about 2/10 of a second in a 40.
Colleges also have reason to promote their athletes as it gives them chances for publicity & national attention. If Jackson only runs 4.5 but has great moves & lateral quickness he could still be a good return man in the nfl & he might be available at 21 in that case. I am also wary of another Desmond Howard experience, cause when we drafted him I was so excited to see him become part of the posse. A few years later we were 3-13 & he was a very avg. nfl reciever that never did too much as a returner here either.
Hail2theskins
01-20-2008, 04:34 AM
Im telling you this team should take a serious look at darius reynaud. He will be an absolute steal in the later rounds. Hes not the biggest receiver in the world but he is an outstanding blocker and an unbelievable threat whenever he gets the ball in his hands. The general rumor around WVU is that he is the best pure athlete the team had, over such names like pat white, steve slaton and noel devine. Unless he has an absolute killer showing in the combine he could easily slip into the later rounds.
watch some highlights:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=darius+reynaud&search=Search)