Four Years Later: Are We Better Off?

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BigSKINBauer
01-07-2008, 09:44 AM
We are definitely better. We really really sucked back then and had no future. We are coming off a playoff season and i am confident in many of our positions. We have the building blocks for the future and i think that is what gibbs was brought here to do. Bring us back to winning contention. He doesn't exactly have to win a super bowl in this term to be successful.

irish
01-07-2008, 09:44 AM
I gotta vote with Tripp because this is a vote on the team and not Gibbs (as the heading implies). I think this team is spinning its wheels and doesnt get better and doesnt really get worse. I dont see the Skins being any better next year than this year. It will be an 8-8 or 9-7 team again.

Sure this team has made the playoffs but in reality this team has won nothing since Gibbs returned and I'm sure had we taken a poll 4 years ago today predicting the next 4 years and I predicted 2 playoff appearances but no playoff wins I would have been skewered. Unfortunately that has been what happened. It always looks like this team is getting better but they never really do.

TheMalcolmConnection
01-07-2008, 09:45 AM
We will play hard and we will win.

Would you venture to say "live to win"?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_OvpzForHyU

MTK
01-07-2008, 09:46 AM
I gotta vote with Tripp because this is a vote on the team and not Gibbs (as the heading implies). I think this team is spinning its wheels and doesnt get better and doesnt really get worse. I dont see the Skins being any better next year than this year. It will be an 8-8 or 9-7 team again.

Sure this team has made the playoffs but in reality this team has won nothing since Gibbs returned and I'm sure had we taken a poll 4 years ago today predicting the next 4 years and I predicted 2 playoff appearances but no playoff wins I would have been skewered. Unfortunately that has been what happened. It always looks like this team is getting better but they never really do.

except we do have a playoff win

irish
01-07-2008, 09:53 AM
except we do have a playoff win

Yes I forgot about that win. Thanks for catching that. 1 for 3 in the playoffs is not what most on this board would have expected. It Still does not change the fact that this team always seems to look like its getting better but it never does.

SmootSmack
01-07-2008, 09:57 AM
Understand that I'm not saying are we better than you expected them to be than when Gibbs returned. I'm saying is the leadership, roster, and culture on the franchise in better shape now and in better position to win consistently than it was four years ago.

birdz4gibbs
01-07-2008, 09:58 AM
we are better off for sure compared to the previous year before gibbs came back but we still need frontline players that can stay healthy for a season on offense/defense..

stability and continuity ...we just need more of it..

BDBohnzie
01-07-2008, 10:21 AM
Are the Skins really better off? I don't see it.

Yes, 2 playoff appearances in 4 years vs. 1 between 1993 and 2004 is great and all. However, those 2 playoff appearances came about because this team went out and had huge winning streaks. Great teams do not have to run off 4 or 5 straight to make the playoffs. Great teams do not need their backs against the wall to start executing. This Redskins team does.

The pieces are there to build a great team, a team that will consistently make the playoffs. However, until the holes are filled, this will be an 8-8 team that will be a 6th seed at best.

With that said, I'm looking forward to next year. To see if this team can execute without the emotion that they lived off of in December 2007. To see if the weaknesses are strengthen, and the key personnel are kept and improve.

MTK
01-07-2008, 10:23 AM
Hard to say that we're not better off now considering the downward spiral we were in from the infamous Spurrier era.

MTK
01-07-2008, 10:27 AM
Are the Skins really better off? I don't see it.

Yes, 2 playoff appearances in 4 years vs. 1 between 1993 and 2004 is great and all. However, those 2 playoff appearances came about because this team went out and had huge winning streaks. Great teams do not have to run off 4 or 5 straight to make the playoffs. Great teams do not need their backs against the wall to start executing. This Redskins team does.

The pieces are there to build a great team, a team that will consistently make the playoffs. However, until the holes are filled, this will be an 8-8 team that will be a 6th seed at best.

With that said, I'm looking forward to next year. To see if this team can execute without the emotion that they lived off of in December 2007. To see if the weaknesses are strengthen, and the key personnel are kept and improve.

I've never understood that view.

Who cares how it happens, as long as it happens?

As the saying goes it's not how you start but how you finish. Gibbs is famous for having teams that finish strong. I'm not sure why that is something that should be looked down upon.

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