Lavar In 2008

Quality LB's since/during LeVar:

Pierce
Marshall
McIntosh
Washington


Lemer Marshall? Cmon man.. if you wanna put this guy in the same breath as a healthy Lavar.. u are nuts.

Also... Mcintosh is still unproven. And it looks like he's also injury prone. His developement has been good but it's too soon to tell.

Washington is consistent and gets the job done. However he is not a playmaker nor is he the type of talent that Lavar was.

Pierce is probably the only quality LB that u mentioned here.

Anyhow, I just love how warpath is divided into the pro-lavar & the anti-lavar.

Me personally I like him. I think his agent mis-represented Lavar severely during the contract negotiations and probably was the bad apple that soured his tenure here and with the organization. All in all, I hope that Lavar plays somewhere again. He's got too much passion and talent to be wasted.

Here is the video where he knocked Aikman into retirement.
YouTube - LaVar retires Aikman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BynBZNiE9EA)

How about defense being a team when Lavar played his great years how many games did we have a top rated defense?

Lemer Marshall? Cmon man.. if you wanna put this guy in the same breath as a healthy Lavar.. u are nuts.

Also... Mcintosh is still unproven. And it looks like he's also injury prone. His developement has been good but it's too soon to tell.

Washington is consistent and gets the job done. However he is not a playmaker nor is he the type of talent that Lavar was.

Pierce is probably the only quality LB that u mentioned here.

Anyhow, I just love how warpath is divided into the pro-lavar & the anti-lavar.

Me personally I like him. I think his agent mis-represented Lavar severely during the contract negotiations and probably was the bad apple that soured his tenure here and with the organization. All in all, I hope that Lavar plays somewhere again. He's got too much passion and talent to be wasted.

Here is the video where he knocked Aikman into retirement.
YouTube - LaVar retires Aikman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BynBZNiE9EA)

See my name? Blitzfiftysix. I love Lavar. He is done with football and will never play for the Redskins or any other NFL team again.

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

washington is way better than lavar, and so is fletcher, and so was pierce. consistency counts.

that said... 4 pages on lavar? seriously?

I'm not arguing I'm just asking. Why does everyone say his knee's are shot. I thought when he was here he injured one knee not two. When he was with the Giants his knee was doing fine once the regular season came about, and he was put on IR because of a achilles tear. Also I thought the motorcycle injury was flesh wounds and didn't have anything to do with his knee or knees. I would like to see him as a backup for vet min.

if lavar wants to play he will try, if he doesn't he will be fine also. The guy is a football player first, all of them are. If they can some how come back to get on the field they all would. The fact people out here want to always say this person is done, his knees this and knees that have about as much a clue into someones physical ability as the man on the moon. Its all speculation, on both sides. For all any of us know, he could be back to 100%, knees healthy after the layoff. The loss of weight may have helped, may have some of the quickness back. Or, he could be completely done, who cares. if funny how LaVar threads still end up being the most debated subject on this board. I have been here 3 years(i think) and its crazy how the debates turn into a huge deal. Doesn't matter, we will all find out in June or july if he wants to play. If any of you are new you will quickly learn that anyone that leaves the Redskins they are all of the sudden trash and never were any good, we should have never drafted him, he was more trouble than what he was worth. I have been fighting that battle for as long as I have been here. We can only wait and see if he comes back. if he does great, if he doesn't great. but lets all stop saying he's done, his body is done, knees are shot because honestly you know you dont know squat about his condition, unless you are his physical therapist

He's done

Lemer Marshall? Cmon man.. if you wanna put this guy in the same breath as a healthy Lavar.. u are nuts.

Also... Mcintosh is still unproven. And it looks like he's also injury prone. His developement has been good but it's too soon to tell.

Washington is consistent and gets the job done. However he is not a playmaker nor is he the type of talent that Lavar was.

Pierce is probably the only quality LB that u mentioned here.

Anyhow, I just love how warpath is divided into the pro-lavar & the anti-lavar.

Me personally I like him. I think his agent mis-represented Lavar severely during the contract negotiations and probably was the bad apple that soured his tenure here and with the organization. All in all, I hope that Lavar plays somewhere again. He's got too much passion and talent to be wasted.


I think you misunderstood the point I was making. I'm certainly not suggesting that Marshall is in the same category as Arrington!! I agree that Arrington at his best was better than all the guys on that list; I was just responding to a post that said we have had no quality linebackers since LeVar left.

I don't mean to suggest that these guys are all pro-bowlers, but they all are/were competent for this team, and therefore were "quality" guys. I wouldn't say McIntosh is unproven; he was kicking ass in the beginning of this season, and then forced offenses to adjust to his side of the field. Washington's first two years with us were very productive; he was a pro-bowler in '04, and an alternate in '05 and '06. And as far as Lemar Marshall goes, don't forget he took Arrington's job, and not just because Arrington was hurt. Williams preferred Marshall to Arrington because he made less mistakes. Marshall will never be a playmaker nor will he ever go to a pro-bowl, and it was stupid to move him to the MLB and have him running the defense, but he was an OLB on the leagues 3rd best defense in '04, and I don't remember anyone suggesting he was a weakspot on the team. In fact, it was his success as an outside linebacker that encouraged Williams to try him as MLB. Stellar player? No. "Quality"? Yes.

The accusation I was responding to was suggesting that our linebacking corp has been weak since LeVar left, which is simply untrue. With the exception of '06 (when our d-line and our secondary were equally as bad), our linebackers have been a consistent strength of our defense.

McIntosh, Williams and Fletcher have consist defense something that Lavar's Special Defense did not have as great as he was
\team work will beat one person every time

I think you misunderstood the point I was making. I'm certainly not suggesting that Marshall is in the same category as Arrington!! I agree that Arrington at his best was better than all the guys on that list; I was just responding to a post that said we have had no quality linebackers since LeVar left.

I don't mean to suggest that these guys are all pro-bowlers, but they all are/were competent for this team, and therefore were "quality" guys. I wouldn't say McIntosh is unproven; he was kicking ass in the beginning of this season, and then forced offenses to adjust to his side of the field. Washington's first two years with us were very productive; he was a pro-bowler in '04, and an alternate in '05 and '06. And as far as Lemar Marshall goes, don't forget he took Arrington's job, and not just because Arrington was hurt. Williams preferred Marshall to Arrington because he made less mistakes. Marshall will never be a playmaker nor will he ever go to a pro-bowl, and it was stupid to move him to the MLB and have him running the defense, but he was an OLB on the leagues 3rd best defense in '04, and I don't remember anyone suggesting he was a weakspot on the team. In fact, it was his success as an outside linebacker that encouraged Williams to try him as MLB. Stellar player? No. "Quality"? Yes.

The accusation I was responding to was suggesting that our linebacking corp has been weak since LeVar left, which is simply untrue. With the exception of '06 (when our d-line and our secondary were equally as bad), our linebackers have been a consistent strength of our defense.

McIntosh, Williams and Fletcher have consist defense something that Lavar's Special Defense did not have as great as he was
\team work will beat one person every time

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