Suisham = Momentum Killer

Should have know this was going to turn into a Cowboys fan bashing a Redskins kicker. Guess there is no escaping that here.

Was just sharing observations is all. If you are happy with Suisham, well I am happy for you. As I said earlier...we agree to disagree. Why don't we just leave it at that? I for one could not be happier that he is on your roster.

For your sake I hope Folk nails all his playoff kicks, or we're going to be on you like stink on shit. ;)

Ok well I can see that there is no way I can convince you guys about Suisham. So we can agree to disagree on that one. I was merely trying to point out that I watched the Redskins and Suisham all year as well and he appears to be the same PK we had in Dallas when were deep in the quagmire of our kicking woes. But I admire your patience with him.

To answer your question SmootSmack, Suisham choked early in San Francisco, he got released in training camp.
I have to call you on this one. SS played in 6 game for Dallas 3 in 05 and 3 in 06. He had a grand total of 6 kicks and made 4 of them. The two he missed were one between 30-39 and one between 40-49 so not much there to look at and we do not know the circumstances of the kicks. He does not have any recorded kicks for the 49's. If I'm correct didn't he boot that kick for us after ST recovered that blocked FG last year for us to beat Dallas?

I do not know what Sellers did the days before playoff in Seattle but he sure did not have his head in the game at ALL

QUOTE=SmootSmack;403349]Absolutely agree with that. Don't forget Sellers being out of place and forcing a timeout[/QUOTE]

Right before Suisham got ready to kick, I told my friends, "Man, I hope he doesn't shank it to the left." Dang it!

I don't blame Suisham at all. You know who I do blame? Tom freakin Cruise. When they showed him inside that suite I started yelling, "Oh crap! Why the hell is Tom Cruise there? Bad mojo! Bad mojo! Get him outta there!"

Why Tom, why? You killed our football dreams. Oh how I hate him.

Right before Suisham got ready to kick, I told my friends, "Man, I hope he doesn't shank it to the left." Dang it!

I don't blame Suisham at all. You know who I do blame? Tom freakin Cruise. When they showed him inside that suite I started yelling, "Oh crap! Why the hell is Tom Cruise there? Bad mojo! Bad mojo! Get him outta there!"

Why Tom, why? You killed our football dreams. Oh how I hate him.

So are you saying that Tom Cruise is to the Redskins what Jessica Simpson is to the Cowboys?

If I'm correct didn't he boot that kick for us after ST recovered that blocked FG last year for us to beat Dallas?[/QUOTE]

no that wasnt him

It has nothing to do with you being a Dallas fan. It has to do with facts and statitistics - nothing else. If I didn't know the facts, I would think this guy was 17 - 35 instead of 29 - 35 and blew every pressure kick he had this season. Well, this is not the facts. He blew one meaningful kick this year. Now, unfortunately it was in a playoff game and did affect momentum - but the same could be said for numerous other players in the game.
With your reasoning - are you going on the Titans forums and calling Bironis a choker and he should be released. He missed a 38-yard field goal in the third quarter that could of brought them back - another momentum changer?? Well of course not - he did not play for Dallas at one time.
Have you ever followed the route most of the kickers in the NFL take. They very rarely stick with the first team they play with - there seems to be a learning curve. (Akers, Bironis, Gould and the list goes on and on)
Compare the kicking stats of Folk vs Suisham in the two games they played head to head. Compare the kick off distance and field goals. I do not see any difference. I am not running Folk down - I think he is a decent kicker. But, let's be real - would he be a pro-bowl kicker if he did not play for the first place Dallas Cowboys. He did not have even the second best stats in the NFC. Robbie Gould should have been the Pro-Bowl kicker - he lead the NFC in percentage and kick-off yardage.
We will see how Folk handles the pressure of the playoffs. Of course, if he misses one I'm sure you will be calling for his head. Maybe you can bring Vanderjagt back - after all he has the stats you are looking for - the most accurate kicker in NFL history!!

I have no problem with Suisam as our long term kicker, but Frost has to go, is there a bigger choke artist than him at the punting position? Draft that kid from LSU he has a cannon for a leg.

It has nothing to do with you being a Dallas fan. It has to do with facts and statitistics - nothing else. If I didn't know the facts, I would think this guy was 17 - 35 instead of 29 - 35 and blew every pressure kick he had this season. Well, this is not the facts. He blew one meaningful kick this year. Now, unfortunately it was in a playoff game and did affect momentum - but the same could be said for numerous other players in the game.
With your reasoning - are you going on the Titans forums and calling Bironis a choker and he should be released. He missed a 38-yard field goal in the third quarter that could of brought them back - another momentum changer?? Well of course not - he did not play for Dallas at one time.
Have you ever followed the route most of the kickers in the NFL take. They very rarely stick with the first team they play with - there seems to be a learning curve. (Akers, Bironis, Gould and the list goes on and on)
Compare the kicking stats of Folk vs Suisham in the two games they played head to head. Compare the kick off distance and field goals. I do not see any difference. I am not running Folk down - I think he is a decent kicker. But, let's be real - would he be a pro-bowl kicker if he did not play for the first place Dallas Cowboys. He did not have even the second best stats in the NFC. Robbie Gould should have been the Pro-Bowl kicker - he lead the NFC in percentage and kick-off yardage.
We will see how Folk handles the pressure of the playoffs. Of course, if he misses one I'm sure you will be calling for his head. Maybe you can bring Vanderjagt back - after all he has the stats you are looking for - the most accurate kicker in NFL history!!

If your sole connection to the Pro Bowl and the playoffs is stats, then you are missing much of the game.

A lot of it is situational, and how a player performs in all conditions of play. Is Folk the most stat-happy accurate kicker in the NFL or even the NFC? Nope. But Folk nailed down his Pro-Bowl selection in Monday night game in Buffalo. He hit 2 consectutive 53-yarders to win the game in a pressure cooker situation in front of a nationally televised audience with the game on the line and his teams (at the time) undefeated record on the line. He answered the call. And it was a game-winning kick in what many sportswriters tabbed as the best MNF game in the last decade.

There are a small handful of PK's in the league that could have pulled that off.

Now I know and am willing to accept a ton of crap from you guys if Folk does miss a crucial field goal in the playoffs.

Just as long as you guys are prepared for a healthy dose of "I told ya' so" when he does well.

Now I know and am willing to accept a ton of crap from you guys if Folk does miss a crucial field goal in the playoffs.

Just as long as you guys are prepared for a healthy dose of "I told ya' so" when he does well.

What about Suisham? Do you still think he's not any good? BTW, he has made some clutch kicks in his brief tenure as a Washington Redskin.