Suisham = Momentum Killer

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HOGTIMUS PRIME
01-07-2008, 01:04 PM
To blame Suisam is nonsense, I told a friend we needed a TD at that point a field goal would not do it, our line as usual couldn't open holes when a D is playing short yardage football, granted we had a lot of backups in there the starters haven't faired any better in those type of situations, the offensive line needs to be over hauled with the exception of Samuels.

We lose 35-17 if Suisam makes that kick. The plays that killed us were Sellars and his block in the back on Rocks kick off return which would have put us on the Seattle 25 instead of our own 40 which lead to Collins throwing that deep ball, and Moss with his head up his ASS all game dropping ball after ball, what an absolute joke on the INT!

sandtrapjack
01-07-2008, 01:09 PM
Ok well I can see that there is no way I can convince you guys about Suisham. So we can agree to disagree on that one. I was merely trying to point out that I watched the Redskins and Suisham all year as well and he appears to be the same PK we had in Dallas when were deep in the quagmire of our kicking woes. But I admire your patience with him.

To answer your question SmootSmack, Suisham choked early in San Francisco, he got released in training camp.

MTK
01-07-2008, 01:25 PM
Hey, if 83% and 29 FGs = a kicking quagmire, bring it on. We've seen much, much worse over the years here. We've gone through kicker after kicker including dumping David Akers prematurely.

Redskins_P
01-07-2008, 01:37 PM
One thing I wanted add....

I think special teams as a whole killed alot of our momentum with all those penalties. Rock kept getting great returns that put us in good field position. Also, the coverage wasn't that great either. Seattle won the field position game.

TheMalcolmConnection
01-07-2008, 02:32 PM
Just like many of us said before the game, Seattle had to play the game of their lives and we had to play at least "equal" to the past four weeks before that.

Seattle held up it's end of the bargain, we just crapped the bed. It happens and it just so happened it was the playoffs.

qb1717
01-07-2008, 03:57 PM
OK, I keep reading about how awful Suisham has been - a choker from this Dallas guy. Now, start talking facts instead of what you think is fact. Your first problem is the San Francisco take. He wasn't even there in the preseason. When released from Dallas he was signed to the practice squad for one week because Joe Nedney was hurt. He did not play AT ALL and was released after the week because Nedney was OK. So, that was a real choke??? Now, in Dallas, he did not even have a chance to kick many field goals - in fact he was originally on the team as a kick-off specialist for Vanderjagt. And in the revolving door that was there at the time - how could any kicker do well? I would say that if Folk had been in that same soap opera with the Parcell's mind games, then his performance may not have been so good either.
Should Suisham have missed - of course not. But, lets look at the whole picture. That was the first pressure kick he missed in Washington. How many games did he actually help Washington win this year?? This was the FIRST game that you could tie him to the loss. The Redskins DID NOT PLAY like they SHOULD have won that game. COULD THEY HAVE - SURE. BUT, how do you hang the inept play for most of the game on the kicker. Oh, and by the way - your boy has not proven himself in playoff competition yet either. Maybe he will shank the ball similar to what he did two weeks ago on a gimme field goal.

sandtrapjack
01-07-2008, 04:17 PM
Should have know this was going to turn into a Cowboys fan bashing a Redskins kicker. Guess there is no escaping that here.

Was just sharing observations is all. If you are happy with Suisham, well I am happy for you. As I said earlier...we agree to disagree. Why don't we just leave it at that? I for one could not be happier that he is on your roster.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
01-07-2008, 04:47 PM
I'm not buying. I personally would prefer to keep both guys unless a proven vet becomes available. Suisham had a pretty good year and so did Frosty. Are either of them playing as well as I would like them to? No, but they're better than our known alternatives.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
01-07-2008, 05:01 PM
Ok well I can see that there is no way I can convince you guys about Suisham. So we can agree to disagree on that one. I was merely trying to point out that I watched the Redskins and Suisham all year as well and he appears to be the same PK we had in Dallas when were deep in the quagmire of our kicking woes. But I admire your patience with him.

To answer your question SmootSmack, Suisham choked early in San Francisco, he got released in training camp.

As MattyK pointed out, Suisham made 83% of his kicks. Nick Folk, a Pro Bowler, made 83% of his kicks. Suisham also made 3 more FGs than Folk. Still think Suisham is a bum?

mheisig
01-07-2008, 05:12 PM
As MattyK pointed out, Suisham made 83% of his kicks. Nick Folk, a Pro Bowler, made 83% of his kicks. Suisham also made 3 more FGs than Folk. Still think Suisham is a bum?

To be fair, the real difference is that Folk made 83.87% of his field goals, whereas Suisham made a mere 82.85%

Clearly Folk is 1.02% better than Suisham and far more deserving of the Pro Bowl nomination.

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