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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-03-2008, 05:07 PM 16-0 is a pretty strong argument. Especially in light of the fact that they were caught recording signals in week 1. There was never any benefit this year from that episode. (the tapes would have helped only in preparation for the second time they played the Jets) So while it was technically cheating and undoubtedly low class, I can't ignore the fact that it was pretty inconsequential. I think the scandal only served to taint their past accomplishments if anything, going forward they will be closely watched so it shouldn't diminish what they are doing now. All of that said, BB is still an arrogant prick.
I definitely see your point. The "cheating" didn't end up providing the Pats with a competitive advantage. But, I find it hard to honor a coach as the COY when he has been caught cheating, regardless of whether such cheating affected games.
BleedBurgundy 01-03-2008, 05:10 PM I definitely see your point. The "cheating" didn't end up providing the Pats with a competitive advantage. But, I find it hard to honor a coach as the COY when he has been caught cheating, regardless of whether such cheating affected games.
I'd be really surprised if the league makes a big deal out of it, honestly. They should just parcel post his trophy to him and forget it. No point in honoring someone who's just going to be bitter and caustic to the very people who voted him the award.
SFREDSKIN 01-03-2008, 05:13 PM I understand your point about BB, but are you saying that whoever wins the superbowl is automatically coach of the year?
No. This year you have Belichick, Del Rio, McCarthy, Phillips, Dungy, Gruden. All this guys teams are in contention. I would rule out Belichick (as penalty) Dungy and Phillips. Del Rio, Gruden, McCarthy and Gibbs are almost equal on the job they've done (I'm partial to Gibbs due to homerism and the amount of drama the team has gone thru) then out of those 4 whoever gets furthest I would give him the award, if it's a tie then go with the record.
Monksdown 01-03-2008, 05:22 PM Belichick is Public Enemy Number One in my family. More so than JJ. Do not run the score up on us, and ever expect us to forget about it. Asshole! I hope he retires at the top of his game next year.
Im watching you Bill, I will always watch. Can you feel it?
SFREDSKIN 01-03-2008, 05:25 PM Belichick is Public Enemy Number One in my family. More so than JJ. Do not run the score up on us, and ever expect us to forget about it. Asshole! I hope he retires at the top of his game next year.
Im watching you Bill, I will always watch. Can you feel it?
I'm praying that we make it to the SB and play NE. Payback would be sweet, not only would we ruin NE perfect season but Gibbs would rein over Belichick as the best coach ever. A double FU in my opinion.
BDBohnzie 01-03-2008, 05:43 PM The only one that doesn't make sense to me is Gruden.
Tampa won the NFC South with 9 wins after going 4-12 last year...5 game swing and a division crown isn't too bad.
If we want to play that numbers game...Gibbs did the same thing. However, the Skins finished 3rd in a much tougher division.
Ocliw 01-03-2008, 05:43 PM I'm sorry, but I'm in the minority here and do not think he should have been named coach of the year. The guy cheated, got slapped with the biggest fine on a coach in the history of the league, and cost his team a 1st round pick, not to mention his other acts of class.
Giving Belichick the COY award is like giving an Pulitzer to an author who plagiarized parts of someone else's book. In the absence of the cheating scandal, Belichick undoubtedly deserves it. In light of the cheating scandal, he doesn't.
I agree with you SGG 100%.
#56fanatic 01-03-2008, 05:53 PM i love reading all the gibbs got robbed crap because a redskin didn't win something. Lets see, Belichick went undefeated, and rightfully won the coach of the year. McCarthy(green bay, probably spelled the name wrong) went 13-3 with a team that was 8-8 last season, Wade Philips went 13-3 with a team that couldn't win more than 9 or 10 games with a hall of fame coach - Gibbs on the other hand, if the decision was made for the last 4 weeks, then yeah i guess you can give him some votes. but the over all season evaluation does not warrant him getting any more votes or votes at all over the guys that were named. Romeo should have gotten votes before Joe - 10-6 in cleveland?? thats pretty freaking remarkable. and Jeff fisher - 10-6 with a talentless titans team. Stop freaking out everytime someone from the Redskins isn't given something or given "props"
with our payroll, players and coaches, we should have certainly been better than our final record. with that said, the records go back to 0-0 this weekend, so HAIL SKINS, lets whip some seattle ass!
birdz4gibbs 01-03-2008, 05:58 PM well sports illustrated what can you really say other than that.
SI finest stand out and i,ll leave it at that..let the voters vote and the writers write.
gibbs has already owned that award a few years and would be nice to get it again but i,ll take another superbowl ring in a year or two,if not this year.
SmootSmack 01-03-2008, 06:03 PM i love reading all the gibbs got robbed crap because a redskin didn't win something. Lets see, Belichick went undefeated, and rightfully won the coach of the year. McCarthy(green bay, probably spelled the name wrong) went 13-3 with a team that was 8-8 last season, Wade Philips went 13-3 with a team that couldn't win more than 9 or 10 games with a hall of fame coach - Gibbs on the other hand, if the decision was made for the last 4 weeks, then yeah i guess you can give him some votes. but the over all season evaluation does not warrant him getting any more votes or votes at all over the guys that were named. Romeo should have gotten votes before Joe - 10-6 in cleveland?? thats pretty freaking remarkable. and Jeff fisher - 10-6 with a talentless titans team. Stop freaking out everytime someone from the Redskins isn't given something or given "props"
with our payroll, players and coaches, we should have certainly been better than our final record. with that said, the records go back to 0-0 this weekend, so HAIL SKINS, lets whip some seattle ass!
I think Bleed made it clear that he wasn't bitching, just saying he felt that Gibbs deserved at least one vote. Hard to argue against that really, I think.
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