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SmootSmack 08-10-2004, 02:30 PM Like Matty says "who cares"? It would have been nice if Champ had said something like "I enjoyed my time there, appreciate the fans support, sorry we couldn't bring another title to DC but I'm focused now on winning a championship for Denver" Something generic like that
By the way, remember when Mike Sellers went to the Browns and he badmouthed Snyder's meddling in Redskins practices (flying in on a helicopter, etc.)? Seemed like he wouldn't ever play for the Redskin again, but I guess money talks
That Guy 08-10-2004, 02:46 PM yeah, the thing i didn't like it that he was perfectly willing to stay and say how much he loved it, if he got paid. Since he didn't he'll bad mouth the organization that gave him a lot of money... its kinda rude/infantile, if he had more class he could have thanked the fans and said he's happier in denver, not that crap he decided to air on national TV.
Redskins_P 08-10-2004, 02:50 PM Champ who?
Champ who?
exactly.
When I was watching the game my fiance said isn't it weird to see Champ in another uniform, I said seeing Portis in a Redskins uniform more than makes up for it.
Champ is history. He was a great player here but it's time to turn the page. Like SS said, it would have been nice if Champ had a water under the bridge attitude, but he doesn't. There's no sense in anyone from the Redskins organization responding to his comments. It's over.
RedskinPete 08-10-2004, 03:18 PM The Redskins have been bad when it comes to running this team. That was then this is now. By the way Champ they were so bad they picked you. Show some kind of class and shut up!
SkinsRock 08-10-2004, 04:00 PM He was commenting on how it was last year and prior. He obviously has no clue what Gibbs brings. Oh well. Like Matty said, who cares?
To paraphrase his quote about Snyder: As far as I'm concerned, Bailey doesn't even exist anymore. I don't have to see him every week anymore, so I don't really care what he says or does.
sportscurmudgeon 08-10-2004, 04:14 PM NY Skinsfan:
Just a guess here but I think that the list of folks that he is talking about include:
Danny Boy
Vinnie Boombatz
Pepper Rodgers
These are the guys who ran the football show here during most if not all of Champ's tenure.
He may or may not have included in his statement Norv Turner, Terry Robiske (how soon we all have forgotten the achievements of that era), Marty Schottenheimer and Steve Spurrier.
And by the way, if someone offers a criticism of Joe Gibbs, that does not make that person an evil one to be shunned. Even Mr. Gibbs would be most uncomfortable in the role of a diety - the only way that it is fundamentally wrong ever to criticize him.
Now go back and look at the top three list of names. Which one of them belongs in the Canton HoF as a great football mind? If they had a wing of the HoF for most money shelled out, Danny Boy is a shoo-in for induction; but a great football mind? Just remember these words Jeff ... George.
Skins fan 44 08-10-2004, 04:15 PM He is now Chump to me. I can see him wanting too leave the past 2 or 3 years, but now when there is a sign of hope to turn his bad on the team, only means one thing. He was not a true Redskin.
sportscurmudgeon 08-10-2004, 04:55 PM Skins fan 44:
If that is YOUR definition of a "true Redskin", then Joe Gibbs certainly isn't one.
By his own words he thought about leaving the Skins for a year of so before he did. He left when the squad was still solid and there was hope for the next season. He turned his back on the team.
Excuse me, but what Gibbs did was to take his life into another place and to pay more attention to his racing team and spend a lot more timie with both of his sons. It wasnt' evil
What Champ did was take a better deal in Denver than he could get here. And when asked about playing in Denver and Washington he gave his opinion - which you obviously don't agree with or appreciate. That doesn't make him evil either.
My definition of a "true Redskin" is someone who will give 100% effort and to subjugate his personal goals and desires to the team's goals. Not for forever and a day but for the duration of his contract here.
jdlea 08-10-2004, 06:00 PM I agree with Memphis. Champ Bailey is 100% correct about the way the Redskins were. Dan Snyder has not been a help to the Washington Redskins. I love Joe Gibbs and couldn't be happier that he's back in town, but I'm trying to curb my excitement just a little until we see the regular season. Dan Snyder can really do a lot to screw up a good team, I have a lot of questions about the upcoming season.
What if Ramsey starts, how will Dan react? Remember when Brad Johnson held off Jeff George in camp, but Snyder made it clear George was his guy so any mistake Johnson made he had to look over his shoulder?
How long does he stay with Gibbs, if by some unforeseen reason they do have a losing season or 2? Remember that Spurrier was "the guy he always wanted too."
I agree with Champ about the way the Skins used to be and I believe that I would have the same reservations about returning to the team that he did. Snyder saying "Gibbs is my guy" doesn't really mean anything because that's what he said about Spurrier. I would think he would have more respect than to fire Gibbs at the first sign of trouble, but I'm not sure. I know a lot of you will say that he didn't fire Spurrier, but after last season he should have and they shouldn't have fired Marty.
All of that said, I think things are going to change...but how can I be sure? Please turn us around Joe...if anyone can do it, it's you!!
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