Has Todd Collins vindicated the Al Saunders offense?

yes. collins delivers the ball on time in al saunders timing pass offense. campbell would throw the ball when a player is open. collins throws the ball before the receiver is open to the pre-designed open area. also it seems that on the short to mid range passes campbell would throw it behind the receiver not allowing him to catch and run without breaking stride.

go skins!

this is a very good point. jc just doesn't seem to have the anticipation in the passing game down like collins does. no one was better in this offense than warner. he would throw the ball well before the wr's came out of their breaks.

Sure but that wouldn't have saved his job here.

These last 4 weeks has cemented Saunders job and has definitely validated the decision to bring him here.

I don't think Saunders was going to get fired. We were playing with a young QB who was improving. Why change things around in such an early stage of his career? Look at the top QB's? Brady, Manning, Palmer, McNabb Farve. All those guys have been in one offense their whole careers. That would have been a very stupid thing to do IMO.

I don't think Saunders was going to get fired. We were playing with a young QB who was improving. Why change things around in such an early stage of his career? Look at the top QB's? Brady, Manning, Palmer, McNabb Farve. All those guys have been in one offense their whole careers. That would have been a very stupid thing to do IMO.

I don't think he would have been fired either... but with a 2nd straight lackluster season he would have been on the hotseat at the very least.

I think the real question is when do they change the name of the drink to the Tod Collins

I don't think Saunders was going to get fired. We were playing with a young QB who was improving. Why change things around in such an early stage of his career? Look at the top QB's? Brady, Manning, Palmer, McNabb Farve. All those guys have been in one offense their whole careers. That would have been a very stupid thing to do IMO.

I don't think that Gibbs was looking to get rid of him, but there were a lot of rumblings about Saunders possibly being made the scapegoat at the end of the season. Maybe it was just the media, but maybe not.

Regardless, there shouldn't be any questions anymore.

resounding yes. mainly because we're actually seeing the real saunder's offense now, and not the conservative version with banged up players (moss/portis) hobbling along in it.

with our oline back and our stars healthy, i think campbell (or collins) will make the offense look even better next year. campbell needs to stop fumbling though, if nothing else.

We have just witnessed an offense that has dismantled last years NFC Superbowl representatives, two playoff teams, and 1 "would be playoff" team. We were able to run on great run stuffing defenses and complete long passes against teams with strong pass rushing abilities. I believe Todd has vindicated Al.

The bigger question is, will this vindication earn the trust of Joe Gibbs? There has been a lot of talk about how Gibbs might be limiting Al's play-calling. I think we just witnessed the end of that discussion over the last 4 games!

"Has Todd Collins vindicated the Al Saunders offense?" hmmmm

That was done years ago in another city on another team. Has Todd Collins executed the Al Saunders offense better than JC? OR Does Al Saunders have more faith and trust in Todd Collins to execute the Al Saunders offense more effectively than JC? Those may be better questions, and the answer to both of those questions is yes. I don't think Todd Collins has vindicated the Al Saunders offense by playing well in it. Hell he's studied the system for years. It is a proven offense, and I believe JC will execute it even better once he matures a little more as an NFL quarterback.

Let's enjoy the ride for now, eh?

With respect the offensive play, I think we're seeing the difference between someone who knows the AS offense and someone who is still learning the AS offense. Collins has been "in the system" for almost a whole decade and he's watched it in action when he was at KC. I do think it's extremely valuable for Campbell to see how Collins works in the offense at this stage as he can compare mental notes of how he would execute vs how Collins executes. Campbell will be the #1 next year when he returns healthy and I think we'll see another big leap in his development.

campbell needs to stop fumbling though, if nothing else.
You mean like the 2 fumbles Collins had Sunday..or are his fumbles different?

Collins just shows what a modern offense and a well versed QB can do in the NFL!