BleedBurgundy
12-27-2007, 03:26 PM
I don't think that the individuals currently in charge of our foreign policy have anywhere near the skills to manipulate ANY world events through means other than blatant military aggression. I have a hard time believing that anyone other than some radical group is responsible for this. Al Qaeda, or whoever else, it really doesn't matter. Someone was killed for their ideas today and that's a horrible thing.
12thMan
12-27-2007, 03:38 PM
I don't think that the individuals currently in charge of our foreign policy have anywhere near the skills to manipulate ANY world events through means other than blatant military aggression. I have a hard time believing that anyone other than some radical group is responsible for this. Al Qaeda, or whoever else, it really doesn't matter. Someone was killed for their ideas today and that's a horrible thing.
Yeah, I get the feeling it was a small radical group. I still think they are ,perhaps, loosely affiliated with Musharraf and/or Al Queda. But still, this will reverberate here in the U.S. as candidates are ramping up for the primaries in the next week or so.
Monksdown
12-27-2007, 03:40 PM
You are correct about who is likely responsible, ie a fringe group. And i agree with you wholeheartedly about the trajedy of losing another life to an idea. It does go to show you however the power behind an idea. We've built our civilization on ideas. And im sure ive seen more than one movie preaching that a great idea is greater than a single great human life.
And i hesitate to point this out, but i enjoy being the devil's advocate. Our moronic figurehead's top advisor(daddy) ran the the CIA for a few years, and may have a more devious personality than the idiot. Not likely, but don't forget.
dmek25
12-27-2007, 04:59 PM
You can blame everything on Al Queda these days. The real question you have to ask is what vested interest do they have in killing Bhutto and are they the primary suspects?
im sure this administration will tie the two together. just more reasoning to keep our boys in the middle east. i cant believe the American public hasn't put its collective foot down and called for an end to this craziness
12thMan
12-27-2007, 05:27 PM
im sure this administration will tie the two together. just more reasoning to keep our boys in the middle east. i cant believe the American public hasn't put its collective foot down and called for an end to this craziness
the public has put their foot down, congress(dems) keeps allowing the funding to pass through.
Monksdown
12-27-2007, 05:33 PM
Pulling funding can be tricky. You dont want to pull the rug out from under our deployed troops, and endanger them.
12thMan
12-27-2007, 05:52 PM
Pulling funding can be tricky. You dont want to pull the rug out from under our deployed troops, and endanger them.
True and that's been the political tactic Bush has repeatedly employed among other things. Another thing, sometimes Congress will roll other incentives and bills into the funding bill in order to get it passed. For instance, a few months ago there were funds earmarked for Katrina/New Orleans into the funding bill. So many Dems were almost forced to pass it as they didn't want to keep money from flowing into that region.
dmek25
12-27-2007, 06:16 PM
why cant the Dem's just say enough is enough? they could force the presidents hand by granting enough money until June, or whenever. that way Bush would have no other choice but to withdraw
Daseal
12-28-2007, 01:27 AM
Yeah, it's impossible to tell what people vote for anymore. They need to keep congress from adding totally unrelated issues onto bills. Make a bill about one thing and one thing only.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
12-28-2007, 01:53 AM
You can blame everything on Al Queda these days. The real question you have to ask is what vested interest do they have in killing Bhutto and are they the primary suspects?
Looks (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/IL29Df01.html) like Al Qaeda has claimed responsibility for her death. They had threatened her in the past for her Pro-Western policies. The fact that she was a woman who got involved in politics probably didn't help matters.