Was Campbell really ready?

I think our expectations of JC are waayyy out of wack. Compare him to Jay Cutler, I'll take Campbell even though Madden and everyone else seems to fawn over Cutler. Romo developed in the old school way, sitting behind a veteran for four years and then getting a chance to start. So he's seen more and has a better handle of what it takes to be successful at qb. Jason will be fine, especially once he sees how Collins is handling the offense. I think it'll do wonders for his development, his confidence and his ability to handle the questions.

But to answer the question of this post, he was as ready as he would be. In most of our losses Jason Campbell was not the issue. He's been a problem in a couple of games, but for the most part his play has been a positive.

Okay everybody wants to know the difference between the first few weeks of the season and now. Yes we our red hot but there is a reason.It could be because we're healthy now..heck our offensive line looked like an episode of survivor and the recievers was so banged up we went as far as signing Keenan"wheres my cane"Mccardell and Reche"butterfingers"Caldwell.(which both have been playing good ball as of late).But the reason why is because of leadership.Jason Campbell is a good YOUNG quarterback.After looking at what Todd Collins has done the last 2 1/2 games it goes to show experience and leadership can and will win out.Campbell is a great player dont get me wrong and he will be the star of the franchise at one point but maybe we rushed off to start him because of the disappointing Mark Brunell.Does jason give us a better chance to win then Mark yes.But its clear that Jason wasnt ready to make the full transition since he did cost us a couple of games with untimely turnovers or lack to control a game i.e. the bucs,cowboys,giants,philly and the packers. Seriously each of those games we lost by less then a touchdown.Look as a powerhouse team who each year is a legitimate contender to win it all with the personal and payroll we have we dont have the luxury to burn a season to let a new qb get his sea legs.We expect to win and win now.Collins play as of late showed the cracks we had in offense and that it was a fixable situation.I'm not hopping on the Collins bandwagon and deserting Campbell cause that will be our guy of the future. Also we our healthier now and have a reason to play with the untimely death of saen "Meast" Taylor but heres a couple of points why Collins is the better man.

1)Collins has always been Al Saunders guy.Nobody understands Saunders playbook better because Collins played(not really) for a Kansas City team that Saunders coached so many years.Saunders wanted to start Collins since 05 but was overruled by Gibbs in favor of Brunell.

2)Collins hasnt really played since the late 90's.his only job was to learn the playbook.Image studying for your final exam for ten years....how good would you do?

3)Time without playing helped him also.He never played cause Trent Green never got hurt in kansas city.So know you have a 30 something year old man with the body and health of a 21 year old rookie.Check out his scrambling skills vs minnesota.

So could we have won the last 3 games with Campbell maybe.But with the season we've had we needed a strong shoulder to lean on.So the wisdom and strength of Gibbs,Fletcher and Collins is the reason why we could very well go deep in the playoffs

well said
TC - now
JC - needs to learn more

Collins is playing well obviously, but he might be getting a bit too much credit for the team's success. Look at all of the deep throws to Moss, they weren't great passes as much as great catches by Moss. And as someone mentioned earlier, the O line has been giving him time. I think the latter is actually simply due to them keeping the backs in to block. They left JC alone back there a lot.

I think our expectations of JC are waayyy out of wack. Compare him to Jay Cutler, I'll take Campbell even though Madden and everyone else seems to fawn over Cutler. Romo developed in the old school way, sitting behind a veteran for four years and then getting a chance to start. So he's seen more and has a better handle of what it takes to be successful at qb. Jason will be fine, especially once he sees how Collins is handling the offense. I think it'll do wonders for his development, his confidence and his ability to handle the questions.

But to answer the question of this post, he was as ready as he would be. In most of our losses Jason Campbell was not the issue. He's been a problem in a couple of games, but for the most part his play has been a positive.

I think you're right about JC v. Cutler. Cutler was just horrible on Monday night. And even the games when Jason wasn't doing all that great, he still gave us a chance to win the game down the line. I'll take Jason over all the QBs drafted in his class. I'll go a step further, I'll even take him over Eli Manning.

But to be clear, Jason is never going to be the type of quarterback that Todd Collins is right now. Meaning that, the things that Todd does best, Jason will pick up on and add to his skill set, but he probably won't do them as well as Todd Collins. I do think in time, a very short period of time, he'll improve on his deficiencies.

Collins is playing well obviously, but he might be getting a bit too much credit for the team's success. Look at all of the deep throws to Moss, they weren't great passes as much as great catches by Moss. And as someone mentioned earlier, the O line has been giving him time. I think the latter is actually simply due to them keeping the backs in to block. They left JC alone back there a lot.

JC could have went 8-25 against the Giants Im sure. I like Campbell this year..besides a few late game interceptions he was becoming more solid as the year progressed. What hurt him was the fact that in games that we had a lead at the half we came out conservative in the 2nd half of games which doesnt make playing with a rythym easy bc we were running the ball 3 times and out quite a bit. Collins has had more freedom to air it out than JC...Collins knowledge of the system definately helps..

Its a very tough decision on who to play If Campbell gets back to 100%..glad i dont have to make the call!

You gotta belive in Gibbs down the stretch this year.. When he went for it 4th and inches on the goaline and we got stuffed in the 1st qtr last sun...I was still fired up because they showed him before the 4th down play and u can see the intensity as he screamed "go for it!!"..

JC is the future, without reservation.
Todd, however is doing great. Not only is a good game manager, he DOES NOT make catastrophic mistakes, and keeps the team in positiion to make a play. He has good touch putting the ball in tight spots. He waits for the play to develope, rather than go for the check down if nothing immediately is available. I could not ask for more
I would say he is playing at or above his actual expectation.

JC has far superior physical skills. He has pushed the envelope, and way to much tried to force the play, where nothing exists. To often has he tried to play Brett Favre, and killed a critical drive with a catastrophic error that doomed us.
I would say he is playing signifigantly below expectation

I totally expect JC to benefit greatly from watching Todd. You stay with who got you to the dance!

This is year 3 for Campbell, so it was time to take the plastic off and let the kid get some experience. He had some outstanding moments such as the pass to Cooley before halftime in Philly where he played with poise. Those better moments were balanced by critical turnovers in other games, which happens with younger quarterbacks.

Collins getting in may prove a blessing for Campbell in the long run. It will instill a belief that with greater understanding of the system, and quicker decisions, this offense can work great with the personnel we have today.

Soup, one thing we know for sure now...whether it's Collins or Campbell....this system works.

The main issues with Campbell is quite simple....turnovers, especially fumbles.
Deep interceptions are understandable...they stretch the "d" and sometimes are as good as a punt....but those fumbles....and 4th quarter interceptions too....ugh.

Other than that, Campbell is quite good.

Collins is clearly quicker with his decisions and I swear he sometimes only has a 2 step drop....Campbell is much slower on quick passes.
I worry about Collin's quick slants to Caldwell....the Cowboys will certainly try to jump those routes for a pick.

It is true that the Skins are keeping more blockers in for protection for Collins due to his immobility...but he still knows where to throw the ball with only a couple options....his timing with the RB releasing late seems to be much better than Campbell.

In either case, Collins is playing great and needs to continue as far as he can take the team this year. Next year it is Campbell.

To be honest, seeing a perineal backup do you job better is a huge motivator, especially since he is the playbook mentor and supposedly has half of the talent.
Collins has been mentoring Campbell on the playbook...but how much weight does he give that guy unless he actually sees him do it better?
Well....now he has...
Campbell will be MUCH better when he gets back...timing for his injury is probably a huge benefit to his development.
Study up Jason, you have some work to do...

And...not to put the panic in anyone, but Collins will be a free agent from what I understand. We desperately need to resign this guy for 2 more years

The main issues with Campbell is quite simple....turnovers, especially fumbles.
Deep interceptions are understandable...they stretch the "d" and sometimes are as good as a punt....but those fumbles....and 4th quarter interceptions too....ugh.

Other than that, Campbell is quite good.

Collins is clearly quicker with his decisions and I swear he sometimes only has a 2 step drop....Campbell is much slower on quick passes.
I worry about Collin's quick slants to Caldwell....the Cowboys will certainly try to jump those routes for a pick.

It is true that the Skins are keeping more blockers in for protection for Collins due to his immobility...but he still knows where to throw the ball with only a couple options....his timing with the RB releasing late seems to be much better than Campbell.

In either case, Collins is playing great and needs to continue as far as he can take the team this year. Next year it is Campbell.

To be honest, seeing a perineal backup do you job better is a huge motivator, especially since he is the playbook mentor and supposedly has half of the talent.
Collins has been mentoring Campbell on the playbook...but how much weight does he give that guy unless he actually sees him do it better?
Well....now he has...
Campbell will be MUCH better when he gets back...timing for his injury is probably a huge benefit to his development.
Study up Jason, you have some work to do...

And...not to put the panic in anyone, but Collins will be a free agent from what I understand. We desperately need to resign this guy for 2 more years

Yeah, it was mentioned on ESPN yesterday that there are a lot of bad to average QBs in the NFL right now. Collins is definitely on peoples radar right now. He's going to have a hard time turning down a big 2 year contract to return as a second stringer at best.