The NFL...Just A Beer Delivery Vehicle?

This is a sad reality in today's world where we feel we have the right to make even an 8 year old boy feel bad.People pay very good money for these seats(especialy in DC) and no one has the right to wreck the game.

These ass's are everywhere NY,Dallas,Washington,and Philly....I'm a Giants fan yet my son-inlaw and grandson are Skins fans I have tickets to the Giants can I bring them or no..........,point is I should'nt have to worry about it.Ownership ...Danny and the Mara's and son on must address this.

"When the Redskins scored their first touchdown, four young women -- I'm guessing they were in high school -- turned around and did a little stripper's dance that made my son blush as I cringed. Even putting aside their ages, it was too cold to bare flesh."

So basically, the kids is a fruit. Damn when I was 13 and in the same situation, I would have started rooting for the Redskins if it meant more of their clothes were coming off.

When I was 18 my dad, two brothers age 13 and 10, and I took a trip to Philly for Giants-Eagles at the Vet. People yelled $h!t to us, we just laughed at them and didnt have any problems.

I would hope we don't ever have the riots or near riots of 'football hooligans' that occur in Europe, or for that matter in S. America & Africa as well.

It's obvious that the author's assumption is that nfl games once were family friendly, whether from his personal experience or learning from others. I would agree w/him that the culture of sports has become way too uncivil. All the stories from Philly & West Va. U. may be exaggerated, but that doesn't mean people there are downright mean & sometimes criminal in their behavior.

Sad to say, but one of my best fan experiences was last month at Texas Stadium. I sat beside a couple cowpoke fans that were knowledgeable of the game, poked fun at some of the dallas halftime shows, & even wished me a safe trip home. Texas Stadium was dry until a few years ago, so the local culture may be less tolerant of public drunkeness. Also, I noticed that there was not one beer man in the upper level stands once the game began, whereas at fedex I was in the nose bleeds but could get a beer every 20 minutes if I needed one (which I did!).
A friend of mine went to Rome last week and went to the Roma-Man U match. They Man U fans were in their own fenced off section. Were escorted out of the stadium by police. When my friend and his friend were about to cross some bridge (on foot) someone heard them speaking English and said, "You better not go over there. People are going to just assume you are Man U supporters." Three people were stabbed, one guy had his throat slice and my friend actually stepped over a stream of blood as they walked. This is obviously over the line, but yelling, ball busting, even cursing at opposing fans is not that big of a deal in my opinion. I go see the Rangers on the road 2-3 times a year. This year going to Tampa, Miami, and Montreal. I go see them in Philly every year at least once and this will be the first time in 7 years I am not going to Pittsburgh (schedule just didnt work out right). I wear my rangers stuff, get yelled out, but at no time have I ever felt threatened for my safety. I have seen the Giants play in Cleveland, Washington, and Philly, and the same thing. People say things, but again all in good fun and part of the experience of going on the road in my opinion.

Seriously it sounds like this guy was just bitter because his gay Bears lost. If the boy is 13 it is time to man up and learn some dirty words.

Take him to a baseball game if you want clean fun experiment.

MAybe NFL games have become like bars no place for children.

MAybe NFL games have become like bars no place for children.That's fine. I get annoyed when I am at MSG for Rangers-Isles or Rangers-Flyers, and I am getting into it with some opposing fans and some a$$hole says, "Come on guys, my 5-year old daughter doesnt need to hear that." 1) 5 year olds do not belong there, 2) don't sit in the 400's.

Seriously it sounds like this guy was just bitter because his gay Bears lost. If the boy is 13 it is time to man up and learn some dirty words.

Take him to a baseball game if you want clean fun experiment.

MAybe NFL games have become like bars no place for children.


I'll say this to you and Coggs .....................why do you get to decide that,why do you guys get to make the choice of what my son or daughter learn or were the're aloud to go nowhere on the tickets does it say you must be 18 or older?
My father has had his seat with the Giants since 1948 he was worried I might get lost but there was never a problem with kids at the game people were respectful of others............boo yup .Never did they attack a coach's(verbally )family or female fans in the stands.Maybe they called him a bum but that was it.

That's fine. I get annoyed when I am at MSG for Rangers-Isles or Rangers-Flyers, and I am getting into it with some opposing fans and some a$$hole says, "Come on guys, my 5-year old daughter doesnt need to hear that." 1) 5 year olds do not belong there, 2) don't sit in the 400's.
I am assuming that several of these most recent posts are written by people who are on the younger end of the spectrum.
If your at a public venue, then you have a social duty and legal responsibility to not get "drunk in public" and show your ass. You have to be responsible in all of your actions. Good natured fun between fans of opposing team is expected... getting drunk and showing your education level is not.

So, if we use your point of people sitting in the cheap seats (let's ignore which team or sporting event), then you have more of a license to be an idiot? Most young families can only afford the cheaper seats. So, your saying families with less money have to be subjected to idiots if they go to a game, but a family with more money doesn't?

I have had tickets in Section 402 for about 7 years now.

I have taken my daughter every single year.

No problems to report, really.

I was at the Bears game, and can tell you I remember more drunk females at that game than I have ever seen.

But night games are different than day games, and I wouldn't take my daughter because, hold onto your hats, it was a SCHOOL night.

We sat in front of some bear fans, and really had a terrific time with them. Very firnedly, polite, complimenting each other when someone would make a good play.

As to Cheap seats, it cost a minimum of about $150 for two people to walk into the game, so there are no cheap seats.

If you think paying for your ticket gives you the right to be boorish, wait til you pay your bailbondsman and your lawyer.

J-Dawg

That's fine. I get annoyed when I am at MSG for Rangers-Isles or Rangers-Flyers, and I am getting into it with some opposing fans and some a$$hole says, "Come on guys, my 5-year old daughter doesnt need to hear that." 1) 5 year olds do not belong there, 2) don't sit in the 400's.

Man, I remember being like 8 years old at a Caps Flyers game and you wanna talk rowdy. Dude`s fightin outside before the game, during the game, and after the game. It was the coolest thing ever. If you go to a sporting event that includes hard hitting and trash talk on the feild, you should expect it in the stands. You want pretty, non contact, respectful action, go to a nats cubs game, nobody will be there to ruin the game for this guy or his son.

It's all about personal responsibility and the alarming lack thereof in society today.