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SmootSmack 12-19-2007, 12:08 AM SmootSmack: I think you're wrong. Most people saying go for the kill, want us to continue moving the ball as we were. You haven't noticed us doing one thing, getting up, then going back on our haunches? Late in the game, I want to see high percentage pass plays, sometimes even on first or second down. Running 3 times burns some time, but getting a first down or two burns a lot more.
By go for the kill it's the continuation of offense for 60 minutes. Not what happened half the season where we play offense, go to halftime, stop playing offense, try to start playing to win the game.
People that are blaming the defense for losing these games. How many games have we lost where the defense gave up less than 20 points. A lot. To me, scoring defense is the most important stat, and we're doing damn good. We didn't even let Buffalo score a TD, but they still beat us. The defense is on the field a long time, they're tired, and they shouldn't be required to win 3/4ths of the games.
Agree to disagree, I suppose. I wish we had a playoff spot locked up so we could "go for the kill" and then get burned. And then see what people say. I'm not convinced that most people mean "continuation of the offense" (whatever that means)
Rock31 12-19-2007, 12:14 AM Have said players ever done any of that consistently? Are any of them besides Cooley and maybe Portis in the top 5 at their respective positions in scoring TDs or all-purpose yards? Do any of them really attract double coverage or serve as the singular focus for opposing defenses to game-plan around?
Don't be in such disbelief; I am not stating the Skins' offensive threats aren't significant. I feel they lack the qualities a player like Priest Holmes, Marshall Faulk, Torry Holt, Larry Johnson and Tony Gonzalez had in their prime when Saunders was working with their offenses. You are more than welcome to dispute my point, but I feel many would agree with me.
KLHJ2 12-19-2007, 12:29 AM I concur with Daseal, there is nothing more frustrating as a fan than to watch your team go up and down the field against opposing defenses only to see them turn around and go 3 and out over and over at the end of games. How hard is it to just keep moving the ball and maintain posession at the end? More often than not when we put our defense in a position to win the game for us at the end, it backfires. I would like to see high percentage pass plays on 1st and second down and runs on third down at the end of games. Other teams know that we are going to run on 1st and 2nd and try and pass on 3rd.
If I know its comming, then those who get paid to defend it sure as hell do too.
in 05 with gibbs running the offence we were the 11th ranked offence in the nfl. i think gibbs needs to leave the front office politics alone and stick to the coaching. so i voted no!!!
12thMan 12-19-2007, 01:37 AM According to the players, continuity is a huge deal. Having the same offensive system in place while Campbell is still young and learning is much better than making him learn a completely new system.
It's overrated I maintain. I think if you have the same guys in place it matters more than having new faces and the same system. These guys are professionals.
We've seen new systems work in the NFL year in and year out. And conversely, we've seen new systems fail. I used to buy it, not any longer.
If Santana and Jason decided to get on the same page, it doesn't matter who the offensive coordinator is, but if the head coach and the coordinator aren't on the same page, it certainly has rippling effect.
Personally, I could care less if Gibbs stays or goes. If he stays, I want him to define his role and live or die with it.
Luxorreb 12-19-2007, 06:07 AM I'd be happy with Saunders and Williams for many years down the road. We must think longterm success. Not overnight facade. Gibbs and Co. have been building a younger and younger team. Stability is the answer.
dmek25 12-19-2007, 07:47 AM keep him, and with full control. this is the most consistency the redskins franchise has had since Snyder took over.
scafuri27 12-19-2007, 08:59 AM You cant underestimate the importance of keeping a young quarterback in the same system. Having to learn a new system could be career suicide for JC. It usually takes teams 2-3 years to have success with a new offensive coordinator. Keep things simple and like mentioned before lets work on stability.
The offense played very well at the end of 06..and our injuires up front hurt us this year..but we seem to have established the run again and with that comes PA passes down field to #89.
freddyg12 12-19-2007, 09:12 AM Keep Saunders, let him coach.
KEEP WILLIAMS & let him become the next head coach.
I can't believe that people can be that hard on GW. Forget the stats, I think it was Schneed that said it; scoring d is what matters & we don't give up much.
Does anyone remember the end of 2006? Our O was running all over people & Betts had a 1,100 yd. season. JC was in his first starts blut was managing the game & making some nice plays, & not turning it over. At this point w/a healthy o line & a 2nd yr. qb, Saunders' O was working.
At the time our D sucked & there were some problems that GW has to be accountable for. Yet this year, he's been accountable & the D has stepped up, even w/major personnel losses.
My point is that when both coaches have healthy & mature personel they will succeed. JC's game will make great strides next year & the O line will be revamped. Draft well & keep the same staff, the Skins need continuity.
Big C 12-19-2007, 12:32 PM id honestly like us to keep saunders, and i favor him becoming head coach over williams
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