Coach Gibbs might consider extending stay.

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MTK
12-18-2007, 04:19 PM
Say what you will but MB did take us to the playoffs in 2005. Let's not gloss over that.

Paintrain
12-18-2007, 04:40 PM
I just shook my head when I heard this on NFL Radio this afternoon.. I think Gibbs will be around for at least next season to finish his contract but I hope he doesn't get a coaching extension.

His FO moves have been 60-40 good (Cooley, Campbell, Moss, Carter, Rabach, Washington, Taylor, Landry, Portis, Springs, Griffin vs. Lloyd, Arch, Brunell, ARE-sorry, I like the guy but he's been a bust overall, letting Dockery and Pierce get away, pissing away draft picks) but I think he's just overmatched on the sidelines most weeks.

I'm fine with Gibbs as team president, setting the overall tone and direction of the franchise but I think we need a new coach on the sidelines that is more in tune with today's game.

ptracy20
12-18-2007, 05:24 PM
I really hope you guys are kidding. Regardless of what happens this year Joe needs to go. I much as I respect him for what he has done in the past he still needs to go. Poor clock management, poor play calling, poor use of time outs and challenges that cost us timeouts have all been a problem in his four years. Look at this collectively over 4 years not just when we win a couple of games in a row.

SmootSmack
12-18-2007, 06:18 PM
Well, as I've been saying for months (if not years). I think the only person who should decide if he comes back is Gibbs himself. Personally, I want him back because he's probably the biggest reason (next to my brother) that I'm a fan of the team and he's the best thing to ever happen to the franchise. But I also don't think he should feel he owes the fans anything or has to prove anything to anyone. So if he chooses to step aside, I'm ok with that. He's earned the right to do whatever he wants.

skinsfan69
12-18-2007, 06:26 PM
Well, as I've been saying for months (if not years). I think the only person who should decide if he comes back is Gibbs himself. Personally, I want him back because he's probably the biggest reason (next to my brother) that I'm a fan of the team and he's the best thing to ever happen to the franchise. But I also don't think he should feel he owes the fans anything or has to prove anything to anyone. So if he chooses to step aside, I'm ok with that. He's earned the right to do whatever he wants.

Well, the guy who signs his check might have a say in whether he comes back or not. Don't you think?

skinsfan69
12-18-2007, 06:27 PM
Say what you will but MB did take us to the playoffs in 2005. Let's not gloss over that.

So I guess the defense had nothing to do with that?

SmootSmack
12-18-2007, 06:43 PM
Mark Brunell, Clinton Portis, and the defense were all significantly responsible for our 5 game winning streak at the end of the 2005 season that got us into the playoffs.

This shouldn't even be debatable.

SFREDSKIN
12-18-2007, 06:49 PM
Mark Brunell, Clinton Portis, and the defense were all significantly responsible for our 5 game winning streak at the end of the 2005 season that got us into the playoffs.

This shouldn't even be debatable.

Don't forget Santana Moss, those catches against the Cowboys on Monday night set the tone for the season.

MTK
12-18-2007, 06:52 PM
So I guess the defense had nothing to do with that?

Did I say they didn't?

I was simply saying MB played a part in that. Just like the D, the running game, etc.

Slingin Sammy 33
12-18-2007, 07:28 PM
How has the D been mediocre this year?

10th overall (19th vs. pass, 9th vs. rush).

12th overall in points given up per game with 20.2.

9th overall in 3rd down conversion % with 38%

They are in the top 1/3 in most major categories. Sorry but that's really not fitting of the definition of mediocre.
In the above statistics the D looks good, but:

Giants: 17-3 Skins at Half / 21-0 NYG in 2nd L
Packers: 14-7 Skins at Half / 10-0 GB in 2nd L
Cards: 14-6 Skins at Half / 13-7 Cards in 2nd W
Eagles: 12-7 Skins at Half / 26-13 Eagles in 2nd L
Dallas: 10-7 Skins at Half / 21-13 Dallas in 2nd L
Bills: 9-2 Skins at Half / 15-7 Bills in 2nd L
Bears: 7-0 Skins at Half / 17-16 Skins in 2nd W

Also we are -7 in turnover ratio

If we could stay even in the 2nd half of two of these games we are 9-5. Sitting back watching that Cover-2 get picked apart in the 2nd half with almost no defensive shifts or blitzing is sickening. In each of these games it appears the opponent's offense adjusts to our gameplan at halftime and GW isn't prepared.

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