THIS Years Free Agent Class Is Incredible!!

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If you cut the following, the cap savings is barely 8 million.

Portis
Brunell
Jansen
Lloyd
Washington
Springs
Griffin
Daniels
Taylor

You can cut all of these players, for a total cap savings of 8.175 million and STILL BE 12 million over the cap.

If you cut your Starting RB, Starting RT, Starting DE, Starting DT, Starting OLB, and Starting CB, you are still 12 million over the cap.

Damn...Good Luck

WTF does it matter what it saves to cut those players? With maybe 2 exceptions, those players aren't going anywhere.

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If you cut the following, the cap savings is barely 8 million.

Portis
Brunell
Jansen
Lloyd
Washington
Springs
Griffin
Daniels
Taylor

You can cut all of these players, for a total cap savings of 8.175 million and STILL BE 12 million over the cap.

If you cut your Starting RB, Starting RT, Starting DE, Starting DT, Starting OLB, and Starting CB, you are still 12 million over the cap.

Damn...Good Luck

Who said cut all these guys? The crucial move that's kept us out of cap hell is RESTRUCTURING deals. Danny can do that because he's got the cash to pay out in various bonuses carefully arranged for maximal cap savings.

Read Schneed's original post. Only minimal cuts...

Well following the 05 season we did break the bank, we went for Adam Archuleta and Brandon Lloyd, in addition to Andre Carter and Antwaan Randle El. They all got $10 million bonuses and only two were worth it. Maybe you meant leading up to the 05 season?

But yeah, last year's approach is certainly ideal for this year. And this time last year, we were in a similar situation from a cap standpoint, so I'd imagine the approach will be similar to this offseason. Not much free agent activity, just one or two key moves.

I would have to say the $ ARE is making does not add up in production. We should not have signed the guy.

Carter? He's our best pass rusher but he's not in the class of some of the top pass rushers in the NFL. So again, not worth the $ he's being paid.

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If you cut the following, the cap savings is barely 8 million.

Portis
Brunell
Jansen
Lloyd
Washington
Springs
Griffin
Daniels
Taylor

You can cut all of these players, for a total cap savings of 8.175 million and STILL BE 12 million over the cap.

If you cut your Starting RB, Starting RT, Starting DE, Starting DT, Starting OLB, and Starting CB, you are still 12 million over the cap.

Damn...Good Luck

The numbers you're posting are accurate, but you're not making any sense.

First off, cutting Jon Jansen would actually cause a cap hit instead of saving money. And given that he's still our starter at RT, I have no earthly inkling why we would do that.

But more importantly, cutting players is not the only way to drop salary from your cap. Daniels and Brunell are the two guys that will yield significant savings from being cut, otherwise the benefit to cutting other players is far outweighed by keeping their skill set on the roster.

We can save significant amounts of cap money (up to $27.5 million), should we choose to, by restructuring the base salaries and roster/workout bonuses of the following players:

Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Base Salary, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract:
Randy Thomas - $4.3 million saved
Clinton Portis - $3.8 million saved
Jon Jansen - $3.7 million saved
Chris Samuels - $3.4 million saved
Cornelius Griffin - $2.8 million saved
Santana Moss - $2.4 million saved
Casey Rabach - $1.8 million saved
Total Salary Restructure Savings: $22.2 million

Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Roster Bonuses, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract:
Ladell Betts - $1.7 million saved
Clinton Portis - $0.4 million saved
Andre Carter - $1.9 million saved
Antwaan Randle-El - $1.2 million saved
Total Bonus Restructure Savings: $5.2 million

I would have to say the $ ARE is making does not add up in production. We should not have signed the guy.

Carter? He's our best pass rusher but he's not in the class of some of the top pass rushers in the NFL. So again, not worth the $ he's being paid.

Carter's not being paid like a premeir pass rusher. He got a $10 million signing bonus, total contract value worth $5-6 million per year. Take a look at the contracts of a guy like Dwight Freeney - six years $72 million ($12 million per year with a $30 million bonus).

Carter's being paid "good defensive end" money. Freeney is being paid elite DE money.

ARE is debatable and I agree we're probably overpaying a bit, but not by that much. Do I need to pull contract values on elite WRs? I don't think we're overpaying by enough to label him as a bust. I'll compromise with you and call him a mild disappointment so far.

I know its early, but there are 3 very good corners on the market this upcoming season (Marcus Trufant, Asante Samuel, & D'angelo Hall)...Should we look to invest considering Spring is prob gone after this season?? More importantly, will we have enough to invest in one of these guys with our current cap situation

Dude we have enough secondary...good secondary..we need a pass rusher and a great wideout..maybe a lineman..lets stop getting unneeded position players

It's already been said, but successful teams are built from the lines up. That's the foundation and without it, everything else is smoke and mirrors.

It's already been said, but successful teams are built from the lines up. That's the foundation and without it, everything else is smoke and mirrors.

Everybody wants the sexy pick. But the games are still won in the trenches. I would be very happy if we could draft a quality guard to replace Kendall, and a pass rushing DE to replace Daniels. Chris Long would look real good in burgundy and gold. I love that guys mentality. He's a leader, and he's got a mean streak just like his dad.

I think that the redskins need to go straight from the draft and stop buying every single player that looks good at the time. We did that with Lloyd and Archuleta and haven't done shit. If you go from the draft you can get talented rookies to play the positions the skins need the most and the coaching can build them up to be great players.

I think that the redskins need to go straight from the draft and stop buying every single player that looks good at the time. We did that with Lloyd and Archuleta and haven't done shit. If you go from the draft you can get talented rookies to play the positions the skins need the most and the coaching can build them up to be great players.

As pointed out in another thread, your Belicheck-esque clandestine operation to infiltrate the boards and pass yourself off as a Redskins fan ("We did that with Lloyd and Archuleta...") is slightly undermined by your Patriots avatar :doh:.

Free agency can work if you get the right players and use them to compliment draft picks. The problem that the Redskins have had is trading away their picks more than "buying every single player." To a large extent that is a tired retort from people who don't follow the team (such as yourself) and a vestige of the Danny's early days in D.C.

Andre Carter, London Fletcher, Fred Smoot, Randy Thomas, Casey Rabach, Cornelious Griffin, Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs, etc. have all worked out pretty well in D.C. I might mention a team you're more familiar with (despite your very very clever attempt to hide your affiliation) and their signing/trading for Adalious Thomas, Randy Moss, Wes Welker, etc.

Go find a Patriots board dude, or at least get a better name, PerkyPerk makes me think I should hate you. Then your comments just confirm that.