Collins & Saunders

A really interesting article by Wise from the WP. He's making the case that this is Al Saunders' chance to show Gibbs and the Redskins what his offense is truly capable of now that he has "his guy" in there at QB in Collins.

Also, Dick Vermeil seems to be a pretty big supporter of Collins. I hope he's not just blowing smoke.

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I think back to last year when Saunders wanted to replace Brunell with Collins, but Gibbs overruled him and said it was Campbell's time. Part of me can't help but think that one reason for Saunders' support of Collins is ego (apologies to Matty), that he wants to show the entire league that his offense can work even with some "career back-up" running it.

There's no question Collins knows the offense, and there's no question Saunders' offense can and has worked in the NFL. But we'll just have to see how the two play out over the next few weeks.

I think back to last year when Saunders wanted to replace Brunell with Collins, but Gibbs overruled him and said it was Campbell's time. Part of me can't help but think that one reason for Saunders' support of Collins is ego (apologies to Matty), that he wants to show the entire league that his offense can work even with some "career back-up" running it.

There's no question Collins knows the offense, and there's no question Saunders' offense can and has worked in the NFL. But we'll just have to see how the two play out over the next few weeks.


Didn't he already prove that with Trent Green? I mean, other than in Saunders' system, has Green ever looked like a NFL starter, week in and week out? Eh, to me, this season was already over so any late run or, gasp, playoff push would be a complete bonus.

A really interesting article by Wise from the WP. He's making the case that this is Al Saunders' chance to show Gibbs and the Redskins what his offense is truly capable of now that he has "his guy" in there at QB in Collins.

I'm gonna ask this again b/c it's relevant to this thread. I think it's a very important question and I may start a thread on it.

SO, what if Collins continues to play amazingly, we win out, make the playoffs, and then Jason is healthy to play the first playoff game? What then?



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Very interesting article. It'll be interesting to see how Collins plays with a full week of practice under his belt with the first team offense. I'm still really concerned about the Giants pass rush.

I don't think Vermeil is blowing smoke. I asked this in the other thread and I'll ask it again, what if Collins continues to play amazingly, we win out, make the playoffs, and then Jason is healthy to play the first playoff game? What then?

I'm actually a little pissed that Al's been holding back on the play calling because JC was in there. If he's the guy, then he's the guy. Call the best gameplan to win, not whatever percentage of your "genius" playbook that you think he can handle. That really irritates me.

I'm actually a little pissed that Al's been holding back on the play calling because JC was in there. If he's the guy, then he's the guy. Call the best gameplan to win, not whatever percentage of your "genius" playbook that you think he can handle. That really irritates me.

I agree with you. So what if it's a 700 page playbook? Cambpell's one and only job is to learn it. I know it's a lot, but if he had a year to memorize it, that's still less than two plays a day. Call the plays to win the game.

I think back to last year when Saunders wanted to replace Brunell with Collins, but Gibbs overruled him and said it was Campbell's time. Part of me can't help but think that one reason for Saunders' support of Collins is ego (apologies to Matty), that he wants to show the entire league that his offense can work even with some "career back-up" running it.

There's no question Collins knows the offense, and there's no question Saunders' offense can and has worked in the NFL. But we'll just have to see how the two play out over the next few weeks.

I hadn't even thought back to last year but it's a really good point. I wonder if playing TC over JC so that our future QB could see how the offense is supposed to work would have benefitted Campbell and the offense in general. I know experience is almost priceless but watching something done the way it's supposed to be done could be just as valuable IMO.

If guys are healthy enough to practice the Saunders offense in its fullness and they practice hard we could see things open up even more than against Chicago. I also think now w/ TC in there Gibbs needs to COMPLETELY hand things over to Saunders - there's absolutely no excuse for a rush-heavy, run-out-the-clock, conservative offense any longer.

Honestly, I haven't felt much enthusiasm for our offense all season but now I'm getting excited for next Sunday. Pretty thrilled that it's a nationally televised game!

Didn't he already prove that with Trent Green? I mean, other than in Saunders' system, has Green ever looked like a NFL starter, week in and week out? Eh, to me, this season was already over so any late run or, gasp, playoff push would be a complete bonus.

What about when Trent Green when he was with the Redskins? But I see your point

I have no doubt that Saunders' offense works in the NFL. I just question why he may think (and I don't know this for a fact) that JC couldn't utilize more of the offense himself. Campbell is a smart QB, and very talented. No need to hold back on him.

SO, what if Collins continues to play amazingly, we win out, make the playoffs, and then Jason is healthy to play the first playoff game? What then?