Collins & Saunders

It's certainly a wait and see type of deal. I honestly do not see Campbell being 100% once the last week of the season rolls around. If Collins gets hot and wins 3 games in a row and we somehow get the last playoff spot, I think you stick with the hot hand.

Holding back parts of the playbook is by far the best way to handle the situation. He's having a tough enough time executing what they are giving him, why further hinder the situation? I think next year you'll see a much more mature Campbell and Saunders will open the book some more. He'll have one full season plus under his belt, and will be able to apprehend a bit more. There is a reason Collins is able to execute like he can...he and Saunders have been together since '01.

As much as I'd love to see Collin's light it up for the rest of the season and into the playoffs, I'll go on record as saying I'd be pretty shocked if it turns out that way.

Common sense says there's a reason he's 37 years old and been a backup his entire NFL career, it would be pretty unusual for him to suddenly turn into Tom Brady.

As much as I'd love to see Collin's light it up for the rest of the season and into the playoffs, I'll go on record as saying I'd be pretty shocked if it turns out that way.

Common sense says there's a reason he's 37 years old and been a backup his entire NFL career, it would be pretty unusual for him to suddenly turn into Tom Brady.

But it's also unusual for a backup to come into a game and play the way he did the other night.

I honestly don't know what to think right now, obviously I'm hoping that last week was not a fluke.

I'm on the fence, but I'm leaning more towards him playing well.

I posted this in another thread but I'll say it here too. Collins has a noodle arm. An accurate arm, but his passes float. I saw several passes against the Bears that got to their target, but would have been swatted away by better defenses. The Bears can't cover worth a crap right now and they were allowing quite a bit more separation between them and the WRs and Cooley. I'm not counting on that against the Giants, Vikings, or Cowboys.

I'm hopeful that Saunders and Collins can adjust to that. But not holding my breath.

But it's also unusual for a backup to come into a game and play the way he did the other night.

I honestly don't know what to think right now, obviously I'm hoping that last week was not a fluke.

I'm on the fence, but I'm leaning more towards him playing well.

Actually I don't think it's that unusual for a backup to come in and finish the rest of the game with a good performance. Maybe not the standard, but I seem to recall it happening enough that it doesn't seem weird any more.

I think I commented about this in the game thread on Thursday, but it seems almost standard that a backup will come in when the start goes out with an injury, the backup will play a great game, but when he comes back next week he gets torn apart. I think it has something to do with the defense preparing for the starter, and the backup is just someone they don't have a lot of film on, haven't practiced and haven't gameplanned for.

This is all purely conjecture as I have no stats with which to back it up. Just something I've seemed to notice.

I posted this in another thread but I'll say it here too. Collins has a noodle arm. An accurate arm, but his passes float. I saw several passes against the Bears that got to their target, but would have been swatted away by better defenses. The Bears can't cover worth a crap right now and they were allowing quite a bit more separation between them and the WRs and Cooley. I'm not counting on that against the Giants, Vikings, or Cowboys.

I'm hopeful that Saunders and Collins can adjust to that. But not holding my breath.

I saw the same thing too. If he's the least bit late on his throws the recievers have to be really open or the ball is getting touched by a db. He does throw a nice touch pass & floats the ball nicely, but against an aggressive D he's gonna have to be quicker since he doesn't have arm strength to overcome delays.

to the coaches credit, they kept in ample protection to give him time & I expect to see that from here out.

I saw the same thing too. If he's the least bit late on his throws the recievers have to be really open or the ball is getting touched by a db. He does throw a nice touch pass & floats the ball nicely, but against an aggressive D he's gonna have to be quicker since he doesn't have arm strength to overcome delays.

to the coaches credit, they kept in ample protection to give him time & I expect to see that from here out.

Of course that becomes a major problem if Cooley can't get out in pass routes and their DBs can cover our WRs. Antoine Winfield and Terence Newman are certainly the two that should concern us.

Actually I don't think it's that unusual for a backup to come in and finish the rest of the game with a good performance. Maybe not the standard, but I seem to recall it happening enough that it doesn't seem weird any more.

I think I commented about this in the game thread on Thursday, but it seems almost standard that a backup will come in when the start goes out with an injury, the backup will play a great game, but when he comes back next week he gets torn apart. I think it has something to do with the defense preparing for the starter, and the backup is just someone they don't have a lot of film on, haven't practiced and haven't gameplanned for.

This is all purely conjecture as I have no stats with which to back it up. Just something I've seemed to notice.

Backup QB Collins gave Redskins great relief performance - The Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/articles/2007/12/09/great_relief_for_redskins/)

"Flat-out, what he did is not an easy thing to do, and I can't say enough about that," said St. Pierre, who comes to town today as the Steelers' No. 3 quarterback. "When you're a backup quarterback, you just don't get the reps during the week, so it's up to you to be mentally sharp in the meetings and take it all in visually throughout the week.

"To come in and play great, high-quality football - at a position that in and of itself is extremely hard to play - that is just so difficult to do."

Backup QB Collins gave Redskins great relief performance - The Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/articles/2007/12/09/great_relief_for_redskins/)

"Flat-out, what he did is not an easy thing to do, and I can't say enough about that," said St. Pierre, who comes to town today as the Steelers' No. 3 quarterback. "When you're a backup quarterback, you just don't get the reps during the week, so it's up to you to be mentally sharp in the meetings and take it all in visually throughout the week.

"To come in and play great, high-quality football - at a position that in and of itself is extremely hard to play - that is just so difficult to do."

Good article. Maybe my brain is still reeling from all the Mark Bulger/Tom Brady/Ben Roethlisberger/Trent Green stories, who knows.

If Collins lights it up you stick with Collins. JC is still thinking too much instead of it being second nature. Having to think about the play slows you down just enough to mess it up. In the Bears game notice how quick Collins made decisions. I'm sure JC will get that in time.

Totally!
JC IS OUR FUTURE..............but he definately pressing to hard, rather than letting it happen. As is evident, he is making horrific mistakes at the worst possible times.
JC has MUCH on his shoulders. Maybe to much right now. He may be very relieved to get out of that for the moment. He may also have an oppurtunity to learn by watching.
AND........a little bench time may help (without the ego issues as he was injured). It worked for Theisman. You never know

Gotta' go.............got a meeting with the Easter Bunny