freddyg12
12-08-2007, 11:33 AM
After Collins fumbled there was a lot of max protect or extra protection (2 backs in) for Collins. We didn't spread it out w/3 or 4 wr's much if any. Compare that to when JC was in there, and for that matter all season. Buffalo kept bringing an extra man but we kept sending everyone out on patterns. JC got hit a lot in that game.
I expect to see quite a bit of max protect w/2 wr's out in pattern. The g-men corners - Madison & Allen - have played better this year than I thought they could, but given time we'll get open. I think we can frustrate their front 4 & wear out their secondary in the 2nd half.
skinsguy
12-08-2007, 12:35 PM
I think right now, I'd feel more comfortable with Collins in as QB than MB. However, that could change if Collins stinks it up in the first of our next game. Speaking of max protection, I think we will see more of that and less of a spread offense. With JC in there, he had the mobility to get out of danger and make plays. Not so much with Collins and Brunell. Therefore, look to see more passes to Cooley and Yoder and less to Moss and ARE.
Positives:
-Besides Saunders he knows this offense better than anyone.
-Because of his knowledge of the offense he tends to get rid of the ball quickly and he seems to have a nice touch and accuracy on his throws
Negatives:
-He's been a career backup for a reason
-Not much mobility
-Not much arm strength
Positives:
-Besides Saunders he knows this offense better than anyone.
-Because of his knowledge of the offense he tends to get rid of the ball quickly and he seems to have a nice touch and accuracy on his throws
Negatives:
-He's been a career backup for a reason
-Not much mobility
-Not much arm strength
Those are some huge positives...and yeah sure he's a backup for a reason..but then I think gee I used to say that about jeff garcia until last year!
Redskin Warrior
12-09-2007, 09:51 PM
Positives:
-Besides Saunders he knows this offense better than anyone.
-Because of his knowledge of the offense he tends to get rid of the ball quickly and he seems to have a nice touch and accuracy on his throws
Negatives:
-He's been a career backup for a reason
-Not much mobility
-Not much arm strength
I do feel the lack of arm strength will cause a big problem. JC could get it down field for big gains.
DynamiteRave
12-09-2007, 10:17 PM
I do feel the lack of arm strength will cause a big problem. JC could get it down field for big gains.
Thats where the WRs have to step it up. They know TC can't hurl it down the field, they gotta get open and when they get the ball, get the dancing feet on and get downfield.
Team effort!
I do feel the lack of arm strength will cause a big problem. JC could get it down field for big gains.
True, but I'm thinking that Collins could end up being more efficient in the short to intermediate range.
GMScud
12-09-2007, 10:28 PM
True, but I'm thinking that Collins could end up being more efficient in the short to intermediate range.
I agree. When that offense was clicking in KC they didn't even have a deep threat WR on the roster most of the time and they still steamrolled teams. I know Todd wasn't starting, but my point is the deep pass wasn't a big factor at all and they had a ton of success regardless. They also had an offensive line that was playing as good as any team in football. I think Collins could do well against a very average Giants secondary, provided the O-line steps up. They protected him well on Thursday for the most part, but they've stunk it up pretty bad lately. And the Giants get after the QB like crazy.
Hey, imagine if we win out, make the playoffs, Collins plays amazingly, and when Campbell is healthy for the 1st playoff game we have a full-blown QB controversy??:)
rscalder
12-10-2007, 11:17 AM
I'm sure all of us are hoping Thursday's performance of Collins was not all luck. I feel that since he has a great understanding of the offense, he can get the ball out on blitzes because he knows where the ball is suppose to go for hot reads. Do our receivers know? I have a feeling if this offense is not successful next week, it is not just Collins, but maybe a receiver not reading the correct route based on what the defense is giving. I hope all goes well.
firstdown
12-10-2007, 11:24 AM
I do feel the lack of arm strength will cause a big problem. JC could get it down field for big gains.
Maybe JC could throw the long ball but how long has it been sense he threw a completed long pass.