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12thMan 12-05-2007, 01:49 PM I heard Brady say how lucky they got for them calling the time out and thats how it goes sometime in the NFL. Not sure what your watching.
I really don't understand the hate on the Pats and, particularly, the hate for Tom Brady. Well, okay I can understand hating on the Pats, but I guess it doesn't bother me all that much. They're very good, and that's all there is to it. The league caught them and now they're giving the league the middle finger at every opportunity.
I think if Brady was so full of himself, you'd see him in as many commercials as Peyton Manning. Seems like people impose his celebrity status on him more than he takes advantage of it. I really think the dude cares less about talking to the media and such. During his interviews he doesn't come accross as being smug to me. Tony Romo, now he comes accross as being smug, but not Tom Brady. And truthfully, isn't Brady entitled to beat his chest a little every now and then? I mean here's a guy that was a sixth round draft choice, a lot of teams jumped over him and said this and that, and not until that past few seasons has he been in the discussion of being an elite QB like Manning. I think he's entitled to a little bravado as long as he keeps it professional, which he does, and keeps it real.
Personally, I've had it up to here with all this clean guy, good guy, "sportsmanship" BS the NFL is pushing. You tackle a guy too hard, it's unsportsmanlike conduct. You dip your helmet a little and accidentally hit the other guy's helmet, and now you're being a dirty player and can expect a ridiculous fine on Monday. It's absurd.
There's a part of me that wouldn't mind seeing the Pats lose in the first round of the playoffs just because and then there's a part that would just love to see Roger Goodall hand that damn Lombardi trophy to Belichick and Kraft in January.
HOGTIMUS PRIME 12-05-2007, 05:45 PM Ok, I keep hearing that the NFL wants the Pats to win the SB. The Pats are not looked at by the public as a so called American team. They are far from that and very hard to market as they have a coach unliked in football and the team has that cheaters image on them. So can you give me any go reasons why the NFL would want (and by saying this stacking the cards against the other teams) the Pats to win the SB. Also to think this the NFL has to meet with the refs who do each of the Pats games to let them in on this little scam that you bring up.
Its front page news, which is advertising dollars, no different than when baseball turned a blind eye on Pete Roses gambling during his hit streak trying to catch Dimaggio, baseball pulled him aside and told him to back off the gambling which he didn't, but because he was filling stadiums, and had every one glued to the TV the let it slide, so much for the integrity of the game.
Do you really think they have to tell a ref what they want? It's far to easy to control with the old wink and a nod. Don't under estimate the greed factor when big money is involved. Just take a look at basketball, that is not an isolated incident. I wont even get into boxing. The hierarchy of the NFL is about money not the thrill of competition unless that will make them more money.
SC Skins Fan 12-05-2007, 06:15 PM I heard Brady say how lucky they got for them calling the time out and thats how it goes sometime in the NFL. Not sure what your watching.
Not that it matters much, but for the record, I was watching the actual press conference.
(On the Patriots' second chances)
"That's football. I've been in a lot of games on the other side. [There were] a lot of questionable calls out there, and you just keep playing and make plays when you need them. We made a lot of plays under pressure, and that's what we need down the stretch."
(On the fourth-and-one timeout by Baltimore)
"I heard the whistle blow and I stopped. I would've made the first down if the whistle didn't blow."
Tom Brady Press Conference - 12/3/2007 (http://www.patriots.com/mediacenter/index.cfm?ac=audionewsdetail&pid=29389&pcid=41)
firstdown 12-05-2007, 06:20 PM Its front page news, which is advertising dollars, no different than when baseball turned a blind eye on Pete Roses gambling during his hit streak trying to catch Dimaggio, baseball pulled him aside and told him to back off the gambling which he didn't, but because he was filling stadiums, and had every one glued to the TV the let it slide, so much for the integrity of the game.
Do you really think they have to tell a ref what they want? It's far to easy to control with the old wink and a nod. Don't under estimate the greed factor when big money is involved. Just take a look at basketball, that is not an isolated incident. I wont even get into boxing. The hierarchy of the NFL is about money not the thrill of competition unless that will make them more money.
Whats Boxing. LOL Yes I think they would have to inform the Ref's if they wanted a team to get the wink and the nod. People are tire of the Pats winning the SB so to say the NFL wants them in would make no sense at all because it will turn more people off then two new teams playing. I joked about boxing but that is why boxing has fallen so far because it was so easy to rig. One person go to the other boxer and say here is $ take a dive in round 3 or 4. If your really believed the NFL was trying to fix the SB then why would you even watch football. The SB is known for boring games but still it rakes in the money so I don't think that it really matters who is playing and goes to show that they don't fix the games.
Defensewins 12-05-2007, 09:52 PM I'm sure if they were asked about it, they would have made some nice comments like everyone else did.
You just hate them cause they win. This is getting so old.
AMEN BROTHER!
I agree. For a team that already has won three SB's and are seemingly on the way to win a fourth, they do not seem anymore very arrogant, smug or what ever the haters are saying as any of the other teams. Even Randy Moss has been quiet.
The past Cowboy SB teams were much more arrogant than these Patriots.
I remember seeing an NFL Films special on the Super Bowl between the Patriots and the Carolina Panthers. During the warm ups on the field a few of the big defensive lineman on the Panthers were talking trash and trying to get the Patriots to start a fight. All of the Pats players stayed quiet and kept saying to each other,' We will give it them up during the game.' and they did.
I like the way they handled themselves.
Beat to a Pulp 12-06-2007, 01:07 AM Personally, I agree. Can't stand the Pats. Maybe that's just because they win, but I think it's because they are so flip and arrogant (taking the example of their coach obviously).
Belichick isn't arrogant, he's just a cold hearted man of few words. Look up the meaning of arrogance in the dictionary.
I also don't really like the fact that Brady seems to whine so much to the officials, he looks like a World Cup footballer sometimes.
It's no crime to express your thoughts to the refs as long as you don't throw temper tantrums and toss penalty flags into the stands.
What really solidified my contempt for him was his answer to a question about getting stopped on that QB sneak on fourth and inches. He said that he heard the whistle and stopped, otherwise he would have picked up the first down. The reporters laughed as if he were joking, but he was totally serious. Just say you dodged a bullet douche.
OMG! you can't take a joke? He wasn't serious. He never smiles when he's serious. As to who's the douche... it wouldn't hurt to at least have a sense of humor.
Being a Pats fan automatically discredits you and I cannot respect you until you prove otherwise. The fact that you probably live in New England doesn't help either (no offense SmootSmack, I guess it's ok to live in NE if you HAVE to :)).
Total racism here. What do Pats fans have to prove to you? explain. Just because you hate a sports team, you automatically dislike the good people of the New England area. Doesn't speak good of yourself.
love them hogs 12-06-2007, 01:38 AM Total racism here. What do Pats fans have to prove to you? explain. Just because you hate a sports team, you automatically dislike the good people of the New England area. Doesn't speak good of yourself.
The last time I checked the people of New England were not a race.Just people who live in the same area.If you are going to attack someone next time make sure what you are saying makes sense.The racism comment is about the stupidest thing I have seen on this board.
If you cant come up with anything better than that , just go away.
That Guy 12-06-2007, 02:49 AM baltimore killed themselves with penalties, they were tackling wrs mid route (and got away with plenty of non-calls themselves). No use whining, and no need for so much anger.
there were some close calls, but the refs didn't really screw up, and the ravens worked hard on killing themselves with penalties and undisciplined behavior.
The last time I checked the people of New England were not a race.Just people who live in the same area.If you are going to attack someone next time make sure what you are saying makes sense.The racism comment is about the stupidest thing I have seen on this board.
If you cant come up with anything better than that , just go away.
LOL
Hilarious.
Beat to a Pulp 12-06-2007, 05:44 PM The last time I checked the people of New England were not a race.Just people who live in the same area.If you are going to attack someone next time make sure what you are saying makes sense.The racism comment is about the stupidest thing I have seen on this board.
If you cant come up with anything better than that , just go away.
Whatever dude. It's still a hate comment aimed towards New Englanders. It doesn't do him any good either.
Now explain to me what do Pats fans have to prove to this guy? It seems SC Skins fan has more to prove about his being a true sports enthusiast.
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