Why Tom Brady is a complete and utter d-bag and the Pats have no class

Kickoffs out of bounds either are placed 30 yards from the kickoff spot, or at the spot it went out of bounds. A kickoff out of bounds can never be a touchback. In the Pats case, if the kick went out between the 1-5 yard line of the Ravens, it would have been placed at the 5. Had it gone out of bounds in front of the 5, it would have been placed at the spot it went out.

An onside kick might have resulted in an in-stride recovery touchdown for Baltimore. That was about the only thing they couldn't have done there.

GTripp, what you are saying is my point, why blindly kick it out of the endzone when there are other options that are much better? I just continue to be amazed at what I see as strategic errors that a lot of teams make. I see these things as coaching responsibilities, but maybe a team needs a Guru to point these things in the heat of battle, you know a little devil on your shoulder reminding a coach of these things. I thought of it instantly last night, not after the fact, so surely there are guys that could digest these things fast enough to relay them to a coach before it is too late.

Kickoff

1. In addition to a kickoff, the other free kick is a kick after a safety (safety kick). A punt may be used (a punt may not be used on a kickoff).
2. On a safety kick, the team scored upon puts ball in play by a punt, dropkick, or placekick without tee. No score can be made on a free kick following a safety, even if a series of penalties places team in position. (A field goal can be scored only on a play from scrimmage or a free kick after a fair catch.)
3. A kickoff may not score a field goal.
4. A kickoff is illegal unless it travels 10 yards OR is touched by the receiving team. Once the ball is touched by the receiving team or has gone 10 yards, it is a free ball. Receivers may recover and advance. Kicking team may recover but NOT advance UNLESS receiver had possession and lost the ball.
5. When a kickoff goes out of bounds between the goal lines without being touched by the receiving team, the ball belongs to the receivers 30 yards from the spot of the kick or at the out-of-bounds spot unless the ball went out-of-bounds the first time an onside kick was attempted. In this case, the kicking team is penalized five yards and the ball must be kicked again.
6. When a kickoff goes out of bounds between the goal lines and is touched last by receiving team, it is receiver’s ball at out-of-bounds spot.
7. If the kicking team either illegally kicks off out of bounds or is guilty of a short free kick on two or more consecutive onside kicks, receivers may take possession of the ball at the dead ball spot, out-of-bounds spot, or spot of illegal touch.

sounds like the ravens would have gotten the ball wherever it went out of bounds if new england chose that strategy...

GTripp, what you are saying is my point, why blindly kick it out of the endzone when there are other options that are much better? I just continue to be amazed at what I see as strategic errors that a lot of teams make. I see these things as coaching responsibilities, but maybe a team needs a Guru to point these things in the heat of battle, you know a little devil on your shoulder reminding a coach of these things. I thought of it instantly last night, not after the fact, so surely there are guys that could digest these things fast enough to relay them to a coach before it is too late.I'm saying dont onside kick it.

I would not have kicked that out of the end zone. I would have kicked it out of bounds inside the 20. Belichick I'm sure was not 100% certain on the rule, so he opted to play it safe.

I think the worst thing that can be done there is to give Baltimore a chance to return it. Once you break through the first wall, you're gone.

sounds like the ravens would have gotten the ball wherever it went out of bounds if new england chose that strategy...

I guess the answer would have been to ask the ref before the kickoff "Where will the Raven's get the ball if our kicker kicks it out of bounds?"

If the answer was "wherever it goes out of bounds as long as it goes 10 yards" I would have told my kicker to kick it into the stands out of bounds anywhere inside the 20 and get it to go out as close to the 1 yard line as you can.

I think if the Giants catch a windy one in the last game, they could beat New England. Bad weather sort of puts offense right back to the stone age.

I dont see the point. Not all NFL franchises live and breathe the unfortunate passing of a TRUE REDSKIN. Because Tom Brady gets on the refs doesn't diminish the fact he is the best QB in the NFL right now and will probably go down as one of the best if not the best. Michael Jordon would always complain to the refs, does that make him a complete and utter d-bag? I think not. The guy has the fire and desire to win that I wish some of our guys would show. You are hating on the Pats because they whipped our boys so bad, it looked like a NFL team vs MIT. Why should they have to say anything about Sean, especially if no one asks them? that is just thinking the NFL should sucome to the same grief we all have felt in the last week, it is not going to happen.

I can't stand the pats at all, dispise them, but they are the best team in the NFL, and maybe best ever. The refs had nothing to do with them winning that game, the Ravens players and coaches took care of that. You should read some articles in the Baltimore and DC papers, no one is blaming the refs. How about stepping up and making a play instead of penalties??

They are not even close to the best team ever.

They are not even close to the best team ever.
Well they have the stats which say other wise and like them or not its just a fact that they very well could go down as one of the best. Just look at their stats and ours from 1992 Superbowl year when our O was putting up great numbers and they passed most of them a couple weeks ago.

I was thinking last night while watching the game how stuck up the Patriots seem to be. There are many incidents and I could sit here for an hour at least telling you why they are all about a bunch of punks but I won't because we all know. I know I will continue to root against them the rest of the season and I would love to see pretty much anyone beat them.

Let's face it, when they get to the playoffs anything can happen.

Just ask San Diego.

No offense...but what is this thread about. The Pats don't have to mention anything about ST after the game. It doesn't offend me.

I don't think any one of us would be complaining about Tom Brady if he was a redskin. The guy is good.