MTK
12-04-2007, 11:13 AM
My bad guess I never noticed that
Why Tom Brady is a complete and utter d-bag and the Pats have no classMTK 12-04-2007, 11:13 AM My bad guess I never noticed that Southpaw 12-04-2007, 11:15 AM I hear you but when a team is chasing perfection and there is a legitimate argument about whether or not they are the "best ever," you want each victory to feel authentic. I completely agree. And the biggest example I can think of for me personally, was the Seahawks and Steelers Superbowl a few years ago. I effing despised the Seahawks, and wanted them to lose, but as the game went on, the Steelers got some iffy calls in their favor and it was a bit unsettling. Even if I completely hate a team, I don't want to see them lose if it's going to bring the integrity of the game into question. But again, I don't think the NFL is purposely trying to engineer a perfect season for the Pats. However it does look a lot more suspicious when there's iffy calls in a close game like that. BleedBurgundy 12-04-2007, 11:19 AM Matty, Check out this link... Rule number 5. NFL Rules Digest: Kickoff (http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/kickoff) That's interesting. You'd think had they known that the patriots would've tried a directional kick out of bounds inside the 10... SouperMeister 12-04-2007, 11:25 AM I don't think it's fair to expect Brady or Belichick to bring up Taylor during a post game press conference when they're being asked questions about the game. I'm no fan of either - you would swear that they invented the forward pass with how arrogant they are. BTW, I've been bitching about another thing all year, and I saw it go uncalled AGAIN last night. On the pass that Moss dropped for a potential TD, he gave the CB a subtle shove just before the ball arrived. Every time Moss fails to get separation, his hands are on opposing DB's, yet he's almost never called for offensive pass interference. scowan 12-04-2007, 11:35 AM That's interesting. You'd think had they known that the patriots would've tried a directional kick out of bounds inside the 10... I guess I am wondering if you kick it out of bounds from the opponent's 30, and 30 yards down the field is the endzone, therefore maybe it is a touchback? If so then you would definitely want to try an onside kick from your opponent's 30, and kick it to their 20, if you get the onside kick... game over , if not at the very least you have chewed more time off the clock and the Ravens have it at their own 20, which is the same as a touchback. Why do I sit around and ponder these things, but it seems like Special teams coaches and head coaches do not. Late game decisions can help you win a game and knowing the rules can help as well. Someone help me with this! BleedBurgundy 12-04-2007, 11:38 AM I guess I am wondering if you kick it out of bounds from the opponent's 30, and 30 yards down the field is the endzone, therefore maybe it is a touchback? If so then you would definitely want to try an onside kick from your opponent's 30, and kick it to their 20, if you get the onside kick... game over , if not at the very least you have chewed more time off the clock and the Ravens have it at their own 20, which is the same as a touchback. Why do I sit around and ponder these things, but it seems like Special teams coaches and head coaches do not. Late game decisions can help you win a game and knowing the rules can help as well. Someone help me with this! I think we all had that little lesson reinforced this week... BDBohnzie 12-04-2007, 11:53 AM As far as the Pats kickoff from the Ravens 35...I'm honestly surprised that they didn't try an onside kick. If they don't recover, the Ravens get the ball around their own 25, which is 5 more yards than Gostkowski's kick into the stands. If they do recover, the game is definitely over, as the Ravens only had 1 timeout left and Brady would kneel 3 times to end the game. BleedBurgundy 12-04-2007, 11:55 AM As far as the Pats kickoff from the Ravens 35...I'm honestly surprised that they didn't try an onside kick. If they don't recover, the Ravens get the ball around their own 25, which is 5 more yards than Gostkowski's kick into the stands. If they do recover, the game is definitely over, as the Ravens only had 1 timeout left and Brady would kneel 3 times to end the game. Or throw 3 times into the endzone to run up the score. GTripp0012 12-04-2007, 11:56 AM I guess I am wondering if you kick it out of bounds from the opponent's 30, and 30 yards down the field is the endzone, therefore maybe it is a touchback? If so then you would definitely want to try an onside kick from your opponent's 30, and kick it to their 20, if you get the onside kick... game over , if not at the very least you have chewed more time off the clock and the Ravens have it at their own 20, which is the same as a touchback. Why do I sit around and ponder these things, but it seems like Special teams coaches and head coaches do not. Late game decisions can help you win a game and knowing the rules can help as well. Someone help me with this!Kickoffs out of bounds either are placed 30 yards from the kickoff spot, or at the spot it went out of bounds. A kickoff out of bounds can never be a touchback. In the Pats case, if the kick went out between the 1-5 yard line of the Ravens, it would have been placed at the 5. Had it gone out of bounds in front of the 5, it would have been placed at the spot it went out. An onside kick might have resulted in an in-stride recovery touchdown for Baltimore. That was about the only thing they couldn't have done there. jacobyfan 12-04-2007, 12:12 PM I don't think the games are fixed. However, I do think there's a psychological issue with the refs calling penalties in favor of the team that they think is the better of the two. The team that is expected to win seems to get the benefit of the doubt on calls. This only usually happens with teams that have great records and have been good for more than just one year. It also seems to happen in favor of the home team a lot. It reminds me of watching MJ during all those bulls championship runs (especially the last three) where if anyone breathed on him it was a foul, but he could push off, reach, and do whatever he wanted and it was rarely called (see bryon russell in the finals). The fact is that those teams and players ARE better than anyone else. The refs know it and I think subconsciously it affects how they call games. |
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