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scowan 12-04-2007, 10:46 AM I have a rules question from last night for you guys..... especially after the debacal of us calling two timeouts on Sunday. (I continue to be amazed by the lack of knowledge concerning the rules!) Here it is...... after the Ravens got mad at the end of the game and had all of those personal fouls which allowed the Pats to kickoff from the Raven's 30 yardline, why did the Pats kicker kick it out of the end zone and give the Ravens the ball at the 20? Would he not have been better served to kick it out of bounds? Don't the rules say that if you kick it out of bounds the other team gets it 30 yards from the place you kicked off? That would have been the 1 yard line or at least half the distance to the goal, the 10 yard line? What am I missing here. Does a special team coach not know this?
Southpaw 12-04-2007, 10:49 AM I agree with many people here that think the game was slanted in the Pats favor, but I heard and interesting thought on Mike & Mike this morning. They were saying that big stars do occasionally get preferential treatment when it relates to calls, and that it applies to all sports. How often did Jordan push off to get a clean shot at a jumper? How many times have you seen Shaq bang into someone, and not get called for a foul? And it applies to baseball too. Batters with a "good eye" get called balls that would be called strikes for lesser batters.
So I do think the Pats got a couple of iffy calls in their favor yesterday, but I find it hard to believe that it's some league wide conspiracy. That would require far too many people and involve far too much risk to be viable.
I have a rules question from last night for you guys..... especially after the debacal of us calling two timeouts on Sunday. (I continue to be amazed by the lack of knowledge concerning the rules!) Here it is...... after the Ravens got mad at the end of the game and had all of those personal fouls which allowed the Pats to kickoff from the Raven's 30 yardline, why did the Pats kicker kick it out of the end zone and give the Ravens the ball at the 20? Would he not have been better served to kick it out of bounds? Don't the rules say that if you kick it out of bounds the other team gets it 30 yards from the place you kicked off? That would have been the 1 yard line or at least half the distance to the goal, the 10 yard line? What am I missing here. Does a special team coach not know this?
I think you get it at the 40 no matter where the ball goes out. That's why it's always such a disaster when it happens.
#56fanatic 12-04-2007, 10:51 AM I dont see the point. Not all NFL franchises live and breathe the unfortunate passing of a TRUE REDSKIN. Because Tom Brady gets on the refs doesn't diminish the fact he is the best QB in the NFL right now and will probably go down as one of the best if not the best. Michael Jordon would always complain to the refs, does that make him a complete and utter d-bag? I think not. The guy has the fire and desire to win that I wish some of our guys would show. You are hating on the Pats because they whipped our boys so bad, it looked like a NFL team vs MIT. Why should they have to say anything about Sean, especially if no one asks them? that is just thinking the NFL should sucome to the same grief we all have felt in the last week, it is not going to happen.
I can't stand the pats at all, dispise them, but they are the best team in the NFL, and maybe best ever. The refs had nothing to do with them winning that game, the Ravens players and coaches took care of that. You should read some articles in the Baltimore and DC papers, no one is blaming the refs. How about stepping up and making a play instead of penalties??
I dont see the point. Not all NFL franchises live and breathe the unfortunate passing of a TRUE REDSKIN. Because Tom Brady gets on the refs doesn't diminish the fact he is the best QB in the NFL right now and will probably go down as one of the best if not the best. Michael Jordon would always complain to the refs, does that make him a complete and utter d-bag? I think not. The guy has the fire and desire to win that I wish some of our guys would show. You are hating on the Pats because they whipped our boys so bad, it looked like a NFL team vs MIT. Why should they have to say anything about Sean, especially if no one asks them? that is just thinking the NFL should sucome to the same grief we all have felt in the last week, it is not going to happen.
I can't stand the pats at all, dispise them, but they are the best team in the NFL, and maybe best ever. The refs had nothing to do with them winning that game, the Ravens players and coaches took care of that. You should read some articles in the Baltimore and DC papers, no one is blaming the refs. How about stepping up and making a play instead of penalties??
I think at the very least, that's up for debate.
BleedBurgundy 12-04-2007, 10:54 AM I agree with many people here that think the game was slanted in the Pats favor, but I heard and interesting thought on Mike & Mike this morning. They were saying that big stars do occasionally get preferential treatment when it relates to calls, and that it applies to all sports. How often did Jordan push off to get a clean shot at a jumper? How many times have you seen Shaq bang into someone, and not get called for a foul? And it applies to baseball too. Batters with a "good eye" get called balls that would be called strikes for lesser batters.
So I do think the Pats got a couple of iffy calls in their favor yesterday, but I find it hard to believe that it's some league wide conspiracy. That would require far too many people and involve far too much risk to be viable.
I hear you but when a team is chasing perfection and there is a legitimate argument about whether or not they are the "best ever," you want each victory to feel authentic. Right or wrong, I didn't feel like the best team won yesterday...
Daseal 12-04-2007, 10:58 AM I didn't feel like the best team won yesterday...
If the best team won every week, football would be boring.
BleedBurgundy 12-04-2007, 10:59 AM If the best team won every week, football would be boring.
Stop contradicting me dammit. LOL.
firstdown 12-04-2007, 11:09 AM I love to watch fans get ticked off at other teams and try to find stuff to bash them for. Yes the Pats do deserve some of this but I still find it funny and find myself cheering for them because I know how much it ticks people off.
scowan 12-04-2007, 11:12 AM I think you get it at the 40 no matter where the ball goes out. That's why it's always such a disaster when it happens.
Matty, Check out this link... Rule number 5.
NFL Rules Digest: Kickoff (http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/kickoff)
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