SmootSmack
12-06-2007, 04:10 PM
If you read my post, you'll notice that I said the teams who go from losing to playoff contenders overnight usually only have a few needs.
Also, just because a team turns it around for 1 year, doesn't mean they turned the corner, or are a playoff contender. The Saints, Ravens, Panthers, Bears, and Rams are all good examples of that. Personally, I don't think any of those teams are in much better position than we are. I don't have any aspirations to be like them. After all, we made the playoffs in 2005 -- does that mean we have turned the corner? Absolutely not.
I would rather be like the Pats, Chargers, or Steelers. They have lots of young talent, and they are patient.
This should be everyone's sig. Exhibit A: Everyone was all over the Jets last year. They've turned it around. They've got a hot new coach, etc.
And now look at them.
Cowell
12-06-2007, 04:12 PM
And none of them took 10 years to be good..
I think that is a bit of an exaggeration but I think the Chargers are the best example (up until they fired Marty of course). The built through the draft for about 3-4 years and when the big picture was finally revealed it was a 13-3 or 14-2 (I can't remember) Super Bowl contender.
theJBexperience
12-06-2007, 05:24 PM
Well Fitzgerald isn't likely to want to come here. Supposedly he wants out because he doesn't feel he fits in Whis/Grimm's offense...which isn't all that different from ours. So...
As for trading Moss, I think if we were to do that Minnesota would be a perfect place for him.
Yeah, that's a good point about the offense, but I would think if Coach Joe goes, Greg Williams becomes Head Coach, and Al Saunders can do as he pleases. Fitzgerald might be intrigued.
Why do you think Minnesota would be the perfect place for Moss? I wonder what we could get for him.
SmootSmack
12-06-2007, 05:26 PM
Yeah, that's a good point about the offense, but I would think if Coach Joe goes, Greg Williams becomes Head Coach, and Al Saunders can do as he pleases. Fitzgerald might be intrigued.
Why do you think Minnesota would be the perfect place for Moss? I wonder what we could get for him.
They have a stellar offensive line, two very good to great running backs, a QB who is learning to manage the game. But they need a top-flight WR. Santana Moss can be that guy for them, especially considering he'd playing in a dome.
Paintrain
12-06-2007, 06:36 PM
I think that is a bit of an exaggeration but I think the Chargers are the best example (up until they fired Marty of course). The built through the draft for about 3-4 years and when the big picture was finally revealed it was a 13-3 or 14-2 (I can't remember) Super Bowl contender.
3-4 years with incremental progress is a far cry from a 10 year plan.. I wish we had shown incremental progress within the past 3-4 years, I'd be all for that..
theJBexperience
12-06-2007, 09:30 PM
OK, Suisham's cut. Let's bring in Bironas!
GhettoDogAllStars
12-07-2007, 02:40 PM
And none of them took 10 years to be good..
I think you're missing my point.
It doesn't have to be 10 years. Don't get stuck on that, because it's not my point. My point is that it should be more than 5. We should have a plan, and it shouldn't be hasty. Sure, it can happen in a few years, but it's not realistic to plan that way, IMO.