If Not Joe, Then Who?

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djdunick
12-03-2007, 12:31 PM
After 2 timeouts yesterday I no longer feel guilty about wanting Joe Gibbs to go into permanent retirement. That is inexcusable.

Cowher would be the worst choice. He would have the same problem that I think keeps Gibbs from being successful. He's already been to the mountain. We need someone who is hungry who hasn't won it all.

Russ Grimm is the best choice but for continuity I think Gregg Williams. Saunders offense would be much better with Gibbs out of the picture.

TheMalcolmConnection
12-03-2007, 12:34 PM
Honestly, I don't think it would matter who we got as coach provided the core of the coaching staff remains the same.

I don't think it's the coaching so much as it's the execution. Sure, Gibbs made a FATAL mistake that almost any other coach in this league wouldn't make, but it wasn't him blocking, it wasn't him putting balls on the ground.

We have the talent, the execution is lacking and honestly I think we could have a figure head as coach next year and if we let Williams and Saunders run the show, we'd still have a good team.

MTK
12-03-2007, 12:36 PM
First off I think Gibbs will be back for year 5.

Beyond that I would put my money on Williams getting a shot.

djdunick
12-03-2007, 12:39 PM
Oh please no not Gibbs for year 5. He lacks the passion and motivational skills for this team. It breaks my heart that he couldn't succeed 2nd time around as I was so excited when he came back but let's face reality. This has been 4 years now. His record:

Yr 1 = 6-10
Yr 2 = 10-6
Yr 3 = 5-11
Yr 4 --- currently 5-7 on our way to 7-9 at best. We'll win the Cowboy game because they won't play anyone but after that one all bets are off.

SFREDSKIN
12-03-2007, 01:00 PM
I hope Gibbs comes back next year to prove everyone wrong. Is not his fault that he has a monumental # of injuries at critical times this season, it is his fault that he made a blunder yesterday (who wouldn't after a week like he had). The changes I would like to see are, as much as I love Bugel it's time for him to retire and pass the reins to Grimm (Skins should hire him and give him whatever title to get him in here) I would like the Skins to rehire our old trainer Dan Riley (now with the Texans) and get rid of our current one.

firstdown
12-03-2007, 01:23 PM
I hope Gibbs comes back next year to prove everyone wrong. Is not his fault that he has a monumental # of injuries at critical times this season, it is his fault that he made a blunder yesterday (who wouldn't after a week like he had). The changes I would like to see are, as much as I love Bugel it's time for him to retire and pass the reins to Grimm (Skins should hire him and give him whatever title to get him in here) I would like the Skins to rehire our old trainer Dan Riley (now with the Texans) and get rid of our current one.
I have backed JG all the way but I'm starting to think its time for a change. I was not upset at timeout call as much as I was for his calls on our last series. We could not run the ball and they ran 3 time and all we needed was one 1st down. People can make the argument that JC has cost us some game with untimely picks but you have to go for 1st down when the game is on the line.

70Chip
12-03-2007, 01:24 PM
Oh please no not Gibbs for year 5. He lacks the passion and motivational skills for this team. It breaks my heart that he couldn't succeed 2nd time around as I was so excited when he came back but let's face reality. This has been 4 years now. His record:

Yr 1 = 6-10
Yr 2 = 10-6
Yr 3 = 5-11
Yr 4 --- currently 5-7 on our way to 7-9 at best. We'll win the Cowboy game because they won't play anyone but after that one all bets are off.


After that one? That's the last game of the year.

chocho
12-03-2007, 01:30 PM
you have no faith in your coach... dont call yourself a fan

SmootSmack
12-03-2007, 01:30 PM
I have backed JG all the way but I'm starting to think its time for a change. I was not upset at timeout call as much as I was for his calls on our last series. We could not run the ball and they ran 3 time and all we needed was one 1st down. People can make the argument that JC has cost us some game with untimely picks but you have to go for 1st down when the game is on the line.

So you're saying Saunders doesn't call the plays then

70Chip
12-03-2007, 01:37 PM
So you're saying Saunders doesn't call the plays then


Saunders calls the plays that work. Gibbs calls the ones that don't. Haven't you figured that out yet? Nice sig by the way.

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