If Not Joe, Then Who?

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GMScud
12-02-2007, 10:21 PM
I thought they played pretty well today. But his philosophy with his safety play just won't work. It's too easy for a team to hang around when a first down can be had at will. Use the safeties, get them up in the box at times and play football. Playing the way GW wants to play only works when you can eliminate big plays entirely. We only gave up one today, but that was one too many. Play more aggressively and you force more punts and turnovers. Then you can give up a big play every once in awhile and it won't totally cripple your team.

I agree. And what was with Buffalo's slot receivers today? They absolutely had their way with us. I don't know if our corner depth is suffering b/c of injuries, but despite holding them to only 17 points, short passes out of the slot, pass rush, and run stop all left a lot to be desired today. But it's hard not give the D a pass today.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
12-02-2007, 10:23 PM
Greg WIlliams is my first choice, he's fiery and I think we need that. I wouldn't be against bringing Grimm back either.

I'm torn on guys like Williams. Disciplinarians can do wonders for teams with talented, but careless players. But, they can also be run out of town on a rail if they start losing. Guys will put up with an a** if the team is winning, but when they fall upon hard times they seem to implode. Williams' last head coaching stint in Buffalo was not very good and, according to some, Williams was hated by many of his players and thought of as an arrogant $@#%. I like the idea of a fiery guy, but I'm not sure that Williams is our man.

GTripp0012
12-02-2007, 10:24 PM
I agree. And what was with Buffalo's slot receivers today? They absolutely had their way with us. I don't know if our corner depth is suffering b/c of injuries, but despite holding them to only 17 points, short passes out of the slot, pass rush, and run stop all left a lot to be desired today. But it's hard not give the D a pass today.When Sean Taylor was back there, we didn't give up more than maybe a single big play all year.

Okay, so now...you make an adjustment. Bring the safeties up, lets go! You aren't going to stop bad things from happening to your defense. At least try to shut down the opposing offense.

prinzeofmoval
12-02-2007, 10:50 PM
I would want to see Bill Cower come online, I feel we are a player or two away from having a dominant team with the right kind of motivating coach. I feel Bill can fill that void. He has a great history of finding talent in the draft as well. If not Bill.....well I would rather see Russ Grimm come home than to give either of our coordinators a shot at HC.

im with you warrior..we are in my eyes a dominant reciever and pass rusher away from pay dirt. Jason Campbell is putting up huge numbers but when we get into the red zone we cant score. Yes the line isnt healthy but with Cowher and his smash mouth ways i think we can become a better red zone team. Were only about 20 points away from having 4 more wins compared to 4 of the games we lost. the problem is lack of scoring once in the red zone. a dominant positions reciever....a great pass rusher to help a great secondary..and cowher to help with intensity and red zone scoring..

GMScud
12-02-2007, 10:53 PM
When Sean Taylor was back there, we didn't give up more than maybe a single big play all year.

Okay, so now...you make an adjustment. Bring the safeties up, lets go! You aren't going to stop bad things from happening to your defense. At least try to shut down the opposing offense.

I agree. Let 'em pin their ears back. It worked in 2004.

Bill B
12-02-2007, 11:08 PM
Overall head coaches who act as GMs haven't had a ton of success in the league. Cowher was never a GM or team prez in Pittsburgh and had a great run there. If ain't broke, why try to fix it? I understand the idea of trying to set higher goals and achieve more, but I think he may be setting himself up for failure if he wants complete control.

Wouldn't it seem a little silly to hire another retired coach with a Super Bowl ring(s) who had never been a personnel man before and expect him to excel in both roles?

GM Scud has identified the biggest problem at Redskin Park. Listen, ever since Synder has purchased the team the one constant at Redskin Park during his tenure is not having a seperate GM from the head coach except when he fired Casserly in the beginning of his tenure. With every other avenue been tried why not give this one a try for once?

skinsfan69
12-02-2007, 11:08 PM
GW should be the HC. Why would we want BC and why would he want to come here? BC is going to bring in his own people so that means a total turnover in staff. We are not that far off. The BC talk is just silly.

SFREDSKIN
12-02-2007, 11:14 PM
Gibbs or Grimm, there's no other choice. You'll be sorry!! What makes people think Cowher II or Williams II would be more successful than Gibbs II? And yes, a GM would help tremendously, get the guy from Chicago (Bobby DePaul) who was with the Redskins before he bolted for the Bears. That's my opinion.

MTRedskinsFan
12-02-2007, 11:16 PM
Honestly, I think any of the potential coaches listed would be an improvement. I could list about a half dozen reasons why but it would only instigate a pissing match and I don't want that. Here are just a few ideas along other lines:

- Williams is my least favorite potential coach. I don't know exactly what it is but this guy is so strange. Listening to him talk on RedskinsTV I just can't see Williams establishing a strong rapport w/ any player. Maybe he is too much into himself, I'm not sure.

- I think Marty, if he wants to still coach, should be considered a contender. I know his playoff record sucks but when the playoffs seem like a miracle for us I'll take Marty any day of the week. He didn't enough time with us first time around IMO.

- Cowher will take the long term approach and build a team from the ground up, which is what it takes to really be a contender anyway, so he is probably the very best option all things consider. If he is coach next year I'll be excited again about football.

SmootSmack
12-02-2007, 11:21 PM
Cowher will take the long term approach and build a team from the ground up, which is what it takes to really be a contender anyway, so he is probably the very best option all things consider. If he is coach next year I'll be excited again about football.

Problem is "long term approach" isn't really understood by most Redskins fans. I mean we've already got people saying we'll never win with Campbell and should unload him

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