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DynamiteRave 12-02-2007, 09:00 PM Oops. I said Other but I MEANT Cowher. I just like the guy. He's emotional, he's just that kinda controlling powerhouse kinda guy. I'm kinda eh, middle of the road, about the cupcake , not yelling stuff. Cowher was just all over his players, or at least he made it look like it. I dunno about you, but if a guy yells at me, I'm definitely getting my act together.
Gmanc711 12-02-2007, 09:00 PM Well lets look at the two canidates in our organization first...Saunders I think is hell no. I dont really know what to say about his stay here...but it's sucked. It's def. not his fault, but I just don't think he really earned any consideration here (again, thats prob some on him, some on Gibbs and their style clashes).
Now Gregg Williams is tough, yeah he had a tough stint as head coach before...well so did Bill Belicheck, and Wade Phillips first run was not so great. Its not like he's been the head coach for five teams and sucked with them all. He had a bad team in Buffalo, so I honestly wouldnt care and actually would accept him as head coach...
Now if not Gregg, I really dont want another "big name" guy coming in. I think if we did bring a big name in, Cowher is probaboly the safest bet because the guy can coach football, but I'd rather have Grimm come in and take over. He would be hungry, he knows the orginization, and he can coach offense (which is our real problem right now)...my biggest wonder is that if Williams isnt our next head coach, is there any chance we can get him to stay as our D-Coordinator.
Roughly put, I'm all for a new coach. I'm not a Gibbs "hater", in fact I really like Joe Gibbs the person and love what he's done for this orginazation even though I didn't get to enjoy any of it..and I can certianly understand why people are loyal to him. But to me, you are what your record says you are, and we've sucked, we've given away 4th quarter lead after 4th quarter lead, and I'm just sick of it. I'll say this...if we were "gauranteed" to win the Super Bowl next year, theres no person I'd like to see as our head coach that leads us there than Joe Gibbs. I really realy want him to succeed. I've just seen the same mistakes too many times and just want a change in the organization.
My first choice would be Russ Grimm, but Gregg Williams is right there too. I'd rank Cowher third. Honestly, I dont know who else I'd really want here outside of one of those three. I really dont think Cowher has any real interest in coming back to coach.
Warrior1971 12-02-2007, 09:01 PM I would want to see Bill Cower come online, I feel we are a player or two away from having a dominant team with the right kind of motivating coach. I feel Bill can fill that void. He has a great history of finding talent in the draft as well. If not Bill.....well I would rather see Russ Grimm come home than to give either of our coordinators a shot at HC.
Skinsfan1967 12-02-2007, 09:02 PM I hate to say it but it is coming soon, Coach will step down.
GMScud 12-02-2007, 09:02 PM But if you're Cowher why do you come back to be a head coach unless you have absolute complete control? I mean, I'm assuming that Gibbs wouldn't go away entirely. He'd still be the President.
So here you are, Bill Cowher, a proven coach and you're probably getting paid a boatload of money by Snyder. But, at this point in your career don't you want more than just to be head coach? Don't you want something more?
Overall head coaches who act as GMs haven't had a ton of success in the league. Cowher was never a GM or team prez in Pittsburgh and had a great run there. If ain't broke, why try to fix it? I understand the idea of trying to set higher goals and achieve more, but I think he may be setting himself up for failure if he wants complete control.
Wouldn't it seem a little silly to hire another retired coach with a Super Bowl ring(s) who had never been a personnel man before and expect him to excel in both roles?
SmootSmack 12-02-2007, 09:03 PM I say someone from this site, since we seem to have so many geniuses who would never make a mistake during the draft or free agency, so many people are expert Madden players, etc.
In all seriousness, I want Gibbs back. If Gibbs decides to retire, don't expect a great 2008 season as new head coaches often struggle in their first season with a new team. And expect to see JC regress, or not progress, if we replace Saunders and force him to learn a new system.
If we had to get someone else, I'd probably go with Cowher since I like the guy, he likes smash-mouth football and great defenses, and he is a proven winner. That said, several teams will likely be after him and he supposedly wanted to stay out of football until 2009. He could be saying that he doesn't want to return to football in 2008 to gain leverage in contract negotiations, but who knows.
Someone from this site was going to be a poll option, but that would have totally skewed the results.
You know what's funny about your compliments of Cowher, smash-mouth, great defense, proven winner....hmm, who does that sound like? :)
So if you (not you, but the collective you) complain about the current coach what will you say about Cowher?
Up until recently I would have said I'd love for it to be Grimm. I wish he'd been on our staff the past few years.
However, in recent days I think I've come to the conclusion that while I don't know how good a head coach he'll be Gregg Williams should be the next coach. I know he rubs a lot of people the wrong way at Redskins Park, but for the most part he at least has their respect. And most importantly, he has Gibbs' support.
And the team could benefit from continuity. People hate to hear it, but it's true...we are so close.
SmootSmack 12-02-2007, 09:08 PM As for other candidates, I've always liked Bruce Arians
GMScud 12-02-2007, 09:10 PM Someone from this site was going to be a poll option, but that would have totally skewed the results.
You know what's funny about your compliments of Cowher, smash-mouth, great defense, proven winner....hmm, who does that sound like? :)
So if you (not you, but the collective you) complain about the current coach what will you say about Cowher?
Up until recently I would have said I'd love for it to be Grimm. I wish he'd been on our staff the past few years.
However, in recent days I think I've come to the conclusion that while I don't know how good a head coach he'll be Gregg Williams should be the next coach. I know he rubs a lot of people the wrong way at Redskins Park, but for the most part he at least has their respect. And most importantly, he has Gibbs' support.
And the team could benefit from continuity. People hate to hear it, but it's true...we are so close.
I'm not sure about Grimm either. No head coaching experience, and he's spent a lot of his time with Cowher anyway, so he's molded in that style as well. So if we say Grimm, why not just say Cowher?
I agree to an extent with the continuity. I think if Gibbs does step down he will stay on as team prez, in which case I would be surprised if it wasn't G.Williams.
If Snyder goes after Cowher people may say, "here we go again, Danny looking for the big name, super expensive big splash." That said, I still think Cowher would do well.
Jamaican'Skin 12-02-2007, 09:12 PM I gota go with GW. He is going to bring continuity with this team and he already has a rapport with the players
2BIG2BSKINNY 12-02-2007, 09:12 PM I think GW should be the next coach! When this happens the Redskins insure that the team will not have to learn a new offense, or learn a new defense...just learn to close out games that have eluded us for the past 7 or so years.
Coach Gibbs will and will always be the savior of D.C. and will continue to fight for the organization but in another capacity other than coach
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